Hi!
Is there somebody around who knows what happens with configuration of
mailer in php.net domain? I get my mails sent to @php.net addresses
bouncing for months now, I get this every time I try it:
550 5.7.1 Please change the topic, and retry
Needless to say, it's useless to have @php.net mailing addresses if
nobody can actually mail anything there. And so far all my emails about
this remain unanswered. Do we have no maintenance on our mail server at
all?
We once has systems list at https://wiki.php.net/systems but that seems
to be last updated a year ago and php-smtp2 is not even there.
Stas Malyshev
smalyshev@gmail.com
Stas ... I think this falls under the whole "no-one really knows who
handles the mailing stuff".
I myself have an issue that 'randomly' my emails will be bounced for an
incorrect blacklist error. And there doesn't seem to be anyone who can
get in there and fix stuff since Wez stopped managing the email
servers. They are kinda 'running on their own without anyone knowing
how they are running'.
Eli
Hi!
Is there somebody around who knows what happens with configuration of
mailer in php.net domain? I get my mails sent to @php.net addresses
bouncing for months now, I get this every time I try it:550 5.7.1 Please change the topic, and retry
Needless to say, it's useless to have @php.net mailing addresses if
nobody can actually mail anything there. And so far all my emails about
this remain unanswered. Do we have no maintenance on our mail server at
all?We once has systems list at https://wiki.php.net/systems but that seems
to be last updated a year ago and php-smtp2 is not even there.
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Hi All.
Looks like there should be someone that looks after the email-stuff.
I hate "should" and "someone" so I'm stepping up to volunteer to handle
that. Either alone or together with someone else (which would be my
preffered solution!)
Up to know I have set up and managed some very low volume mail-servers
mainly for sending or relaying to different mail-addresses but I'm
willing to learn. So should one of the current (or past) maintainers be
willing to help me with questions I'm sure I can handle that.
So who's the right person/group to address and - in case it's wnated
that I do that - provide me with insight (and credentials)?
Cheers
Andreas
Am 01.12.16 um 15:40 schrieb Eli:
Stas ... I think this falls under the whole "no-one really knows who
handles the mailing stuff".I myself have an issue that 'randomly' my emails will be bounced for an
incorrect blacklist error. And there doesn't seem to be anyone who can
get in there and fix stuff since Wez stopped managing the email
servers. They are kinda 'running on their own without anyone knowing
how they are running'.Eli
Hi!
Is there somebody around who knows what happens with configuration of
mailer in php.net domain? I get my mails sent to @php.net addresses
bouncing for months now, I get this every time I try it:550 5.7.1 Please change the topic, and retry
Needless to say, it's useless to have @php.net mailing addresses if
nobody can actually mail anything there. And so far all my emails about
this remain unanswered. Do we have no maintenance on our mail server at
all?We once has systems list at https://wiki.php.net/systems but that seems
to be last updated a year ago and php-smtp2 is not even there.--
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The problem here is that it is not a standard mail setup so finding online
resources is tricky. It is Ecelerity from MessageSystems. I have been
poking the config trying to find where this subject keyword thing is
defined, but so far no luck. In the short term I think we need someone who
knows Ecelerity to help with this specific problem, but if you would like
to read up on it and be the mail server guy, that would be awesome and
perhaps you could help transition to a more standard setup that we have a
chance of maintaining. Or if not that, at least write up some dumbed down
docs on how this beast works.
-Rasmus
Hi All.
Looks like there should be someone that looks after the email-stuff.
I hate "should" and "someone" so I'm stepping up to volunteer to handle
that. Either alone or together with someone else (which would be my
preffered solution!)Up to know I have set up and managed some very low volume mail-servers
mainly for sending or relaying to different mail-addresses but I'm
willing to learn. So should one of the current (or past) maintainers be
willing to help me with questions I'm sure I can handle that.So who's the right person/group to address and - in case it's wnated
that I do that - provide me with insight (and credentials)?Cheers
Andreas
Am 01.12.16 um 15:40 schrieb Eli:
Stas ... I think this falls under the whole "no-one really knows who
handles the mailing stuff".I myself have an issue that 'randomly' my emails will be bounced for an
incorrect blacklist error. And there doesn't seem to be anyone who can
get in there and fix stuff since Wez stopped managing the email
servers. They are kinda 'running on their own without anyone knowing
how they are running'.Eli
Hi!
Is there somebody around who knows what happens with configuration of
mailer in php.net domain? I get my mails sent to @php.net addresses
bouncing for months now, I get this every time I try it:550 5.7.1 Please change the topic, and retry
Needless to say, it's useless to have @php.net mailing addresses if
nobody can actually mail anything there. And so far all my emails about
this remain unanswered. Do we have no maintenance on our mail server at
all?We once has systems list at https://wiki.php.net/systems but that seems
to be last updated a year ago and php-smtp2 is not even there.--
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The problem here is that it is not a standard mail setup so finding online
resources is tricky. It is Ecelerity from MessageSystems. I have been
poking the config trying to find where this subject keyword thing is
defined, but so far no luck. In the short term I think we need someone who
knows Ecelerity to help with this specific problem, but if you would like
to read up on it and be the mail server guy, that would be awesome and
perhaps you could help transition to a more standard setup that we have a
chance of maintaining. Or if not that, at least write up some dumbed down
docs on how this beast works.
I think it's time to retire Ecelerity. Nobody knows how it works. if
It'd be postfix, I would likely have checked one of these ghost mail
reports out...
cheers,
Derick
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I think it's time to retire Ecelerity. Nobody knows how it works. if
It'd be postfix, I would likely have checked one of these ghost mail
reports out...
I don't think anyone disagrees with that, but at the same time it is a lot
of work to switch and get a secure and efficient anti-spam mail server
working well these days.
-Rasmus
I think it's time to retire Ecelerity. Nobody knows how it works. if
It'd be postfix, I would likely have checked one of these ghost mail
reports out...I don't think anyone disagrees with that, but at the same time it is a lot
of work to switch and get a secure and efficient anti-spam mail server
working well these days.
I'm going to assume that outsourcing it (with sponsorship?) is out of the
question?
Hi Davey, hi All
Am 02.12.16 um 03:10 schrieb Davey Shafik:
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com
mailto:rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote:On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net <mailto:derick@php.net>> wrote: > > I think it's time to retire Ecelerity. Nobody knows how it works. if > It'd be postfix, I would likely have checked one of these ghost mail > reports out... > I don't think anyone disagrees with that, but at the same time it is a lot of work to switch and get a secure and efficient anti-spam mail server working well these days.I'm going to assume that outsourcing it (with sponsorship?) is out of
the question?
Personally I think having control over our infrastructure makes it
easier to handle special use-cases. So outsorcing Email to an
SAAS-provider wouldn't be my first option.
Even though outsorcing might solve some issues due to having specialists
handling everything we'd always need to circumvent their "one setup for
all"-solutions for special use-cases.
That might be a feasible solution for the mailinglists but I don't see
our actual Emails going that way.
But perhaps others see that different.
Cheers
Andreas
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Everyone,
Ecelerity has been retired for close to two years (Feb 2015).
The MX for php.net is a single, well-maintained Postfix instance.
If there are any issues, please let me know and Cc systems@
Thanks
Sascha
Ecelerity has been retired for close to two years (Feb 2015).
The MX for php.net is a single, well-maintained Postfix instance.
If there are any issues, please let me know and Cc systems@
Thanks
Sascha
Added it to the wiki now with all the info provided / easily found out:
https://wiki.php.net/systems/php-smtp2
~Florian
Hi Sascha.
Thanks for the clarification. Can you shed some light to whether pb1.php.net - which according to https://wiki.php.net/systems/pb1 holds the mailinglists - is still tunning Ecelerity or not?
Cheers
Andreas
Andreas Heigl
Andreas@heigl.org
Am 04.12.2016 um 10:41 schrieb Sascha Schumann sascha.schumann@myrasecurity.com:
Everyone,
Ecelerity has been retired for close to two years (Feb 2015).
The MX for php.net is a single, well-maintained Postfix instance.
If there are any issues, please let me know and Cc systems@
Thanks
Sascha
Ecelerity is on osu1php and it is still taking traffic even though the mx
for php.net doesn't point to it. So something somewhere is hardcoded to use
it. But this discussion is better suited for the systems@ list.
Hi All, Hi Rasmus.
Am 01.12.16 um 16:54 schrieb Rasmus Lerdorf:
The problem here is that it is not a standard mail setup so finding online
resources is tricky. It is Ecelerity from MessageSystems. I have been
poking the config trying to find where this subject keyword thing is
defined, but so far no luck. In the short term I think we need someone who
knows Ecelerity to help with this specific problem, but if you would like
to read up on it and be the mail server guy, that would be awesome and
perhaps you could help transition to a more standard setup that we have a
chance of maintaining. Or if not that, at least write up some dumbed down
docs on how this beast works.
The offer still stands. Even though it looks very ... Eccentric. :)
I know a bit about postfix and am willing to learn about Ecelerity and
perhaps we can make a transition. But that's a second step in my eyes.
Let's first handle the beast at hands and then see what comes up next.
Cheers
Andreas
-Rasmus
Hi All.
Looks like there should be someone that looks after the email-stuff.
I hate "should" and "someone" so I'm stepping up to volunteer to handle
that. Either alone or together with someone else (which would be my
preffered solution!)Up to know I have set up and managed some very low volume mail-servers
mainly for sending or relaying to different mail-addresses but I'm
willing to learn. So should one of the current (or past) maintainers be
willing to help me with questions I'm sure I can handle that.So who's the right person/group to address and - in case it's wnated
that I do that - provide me with insight (and credentials)?Cheers
Andreas
Am 01.12.16 um 15:40 schrieb Eli:
Stas ... I think this falls under the whole "no-one really knows who
handles the mailing stuff".I myself have an issue that 'randomly' my emails will be bounced for an
incorrect blacklist error. And there doesn't seem to be anyone who can
get in there and fix stuff since Wez stopped managing the email
servers. They are kinda 'running on their own without anyone knowing
how they are running'.Eli
Hi!
Is there somebody around who knows what happens with configuration of
mailer in php.net domain? I get my mails sent to @php.net addresses
bouncing for months now, I get this every time I try it:550 5.7.1 Please change the topic, and retry
Needless to say, it's useless to have @php.net mailing addresses if
nobody can actually mail anything there. And so far all my emails about
this remain unanswered. Do we have no maintenance on our mail server at
all?We once has systems list at https://wiki.php.net/systems but that seems
to be last updated a year ago and php-smtp2 is not even there.--
| Eli White | http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW |--
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| Andreas Heigl |
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