Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97237 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90405 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2016 16:15:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Dec 2016 16:15:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andreas@heigl.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andreas@heigl.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain heigl.org from 195.191.240.18 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andreas@heigl.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 195.191.240.18 hos109.unaxus.net Received: from [195.191.240.18] ([195.191.240.18:57328] helo=hos109.unaxus.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A8/1C-14267-5AC40485 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 11:15:35 -0500 Received: from [212.185.30.151] (port=61484 helo=wdv-hg-0.C.07-zX4090-Heigl.Andreas.dhcp.hg.wdv.de) by hos109.unaxus.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cCU1A-003rOU-IL; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 17:15:29 +0100 To: Rasmus Lerdorf References: <52914793-24da-2dd2-fda8-372720f80475@gmail.com> <57bdb75a-f019-8910-3347-ad3c6657b183@heigl.org> Cc: Eli , PHP internals Message-ID: <8f005ad9-023e-b5e9-5838-70787a8c13b9@heigl.org> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 17:15:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050102030803050809090806" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hos109.unaxus.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - heigl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hos109.unaxus.net: authenticated_id: a.heigl+heigl.org/only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed X-Authenticated-Sender: hos109.unaxus.net: a.heigl@heigl.org Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php.net mailing setup owner? From: andreas@heigl.org (Andreas Heigl) --------------ms050102030803050809090806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Hi Rasmus. Am 01.12.16 um 16:54 schrieb Rasmus Lerdorf: > The problem here is that it is not a standard mail setup so finding onl= ine > resources is tricky. It is Ecelerity from MessageSystems. I have been > poking the config trying to find where this subject keyword thing is > defined, but so far no luck. In the short term I think we need someone = who > knows Ecelerity to help with this specific problem, but if you would li= ke > to read up on it and be the mail server guy, that would be awesome and > perhaps you could help transition to a more standard setup that we have= a > chance of maintaining. Or if not that, at least write up some dumbed do= wn > docs on how this beast works. The offer still stands. Even though it looks very ... Eccentric. :) I know a bit about postfix and am willing to learn about Ecelerity and perhaps we can make a transition. But *that's* a second step in my eyes. Let's first handle the beast at hands and then see what comes up next. Cheers Andreas >=20 > -Rasmus >=20 > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Andreas Heigl wrote= : >=20 >> Hi All. >> >> Looks like there should be someone that looks after the email-stuff. >> >> I hate "should" and "someone" so I'm stepping up to volunteer to handl= e >> that. Either alone or together with someone else (which would be my >> preffered solution!) >> >> Up to know I have set up and managed some very low volume mail-servers= >> mainly for sending or relaying to different mail-addresses but I'm >> willing to learn. So should one of the current (or past) maintainers b= e >> willing to help me with questions I'm sure I can handle that. >> >> So who's the right person/group to address and - in case it's wnated >> that I do that - provide me with insight (and credentials)? >> >> Cheers >> >> Andreas >> >> Am 01.12.16 um 15:40 schrieb Eli: >>> Stas ... I think this falls under the whole "no-one really knows who >>> handles the mailing stuff". >>> >>> I myself have an issue that 'randomly' my emails will be bounced for = an >>> incorrect blacklist error. And there doesn't seem to be anyone who c= an >>> get in there and fix stuff since Wez stopped managing the email >>> servers. They are kinda 'running on their own without anyone knowing= >>> how they are running'. >>> >>> Eli >>> >>> >>> On 11/27/16 5:44 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Is there somebody around who knows what happens with configuration o= f >>>> mailer in php.net domain? I get my mails sent to @php.net addresses >>>> bouncing for months now, I get this every time I try it: >>>> >>>> 550 5.7.1 Please change the topic, and retry >>>> >>>> Needless to say, it's useless to have @php.net mailing addresses if >>>> nobody can actually mail anything there. And so far all my emails ab= out >>>> this remain unanswered. Do we have no maintenance on our mail server= at >>>> all? >>>> >>>> We once has systems list at https://wiki.php.net/systems but that se= ems >>>> to be last updated a year ago and php-smtp2 is not even there. >>> >>> -- >>> | Eli White | http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW | >>> >> >> >> -- >> ,,, >> (o o) >> +---------------------------------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-= + >> | Andreas Heigl = | >> | mailto:andreas@heigl.org N 50=C2=B022'59.5" E 08=C2= =B023'58" | >> | http://andreas.heigl.org http://hei.gl/wiFKy7 = | >> +---------------------------------------------------------------------= + >> | http://hei.gl/root-ca = | >> +---------------------------------------------------------------------= + >> >> >=20 --=20 ,,, (o o) +---------------------------------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-+ | Andreas Heigl | | mailto:andreas@heigl.org N 50=C2=B022'59.5" E 08=C2=B0= 23'58" | | http://andreas.heigl.org http://hei.gl/wiFKy7 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | http://hei.gl/root-ca | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------ms050102030803050809090806 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC BawwggWoMIIDkKADAgECAgMSOD4wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQENBQAweTEQMA4GA1UEChMHUm9vdCBD QTEeMBwGA1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jYWNlcnQub3JnMSIwIAYDVQQDExlDQSBDZXJ0IFNp Z25pbmcgQXV0aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJzdXBwb3J0QGNhY2VydC5vcmcwHhcN MTYwNzIzMDkxNjU1WhcNMTgwNzIzMDkxNjU1WjBcMRYwFAYDVQQDEw1BbmRyZWFzIEhlaWds MSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFhLmhlaWdsQGhlaWdsLm9yZzEgMB4GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYRYW5k cmVhc0BoZWlnbC5vcmcwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQCn6XLcWFLD vAXgllUikBAU2Rv63m7ZKP+ZU/2HTWDW0BJ2muK7GD3cGZxbKKosO6l6PSqqmLqUJ8G6b/85 iPQmNL5z+LG/+wt/p31SOMAWc5UA7CJAQ9pivUCcV+Yt0LzoxWO5ME2rEZ/ioB2tXMilkJLM U4f5A9m3YZVSKj3xbM7rIpQEZiK0TrZ4MchTwPMdAwBLBxCoAztcg4Yj4qKd+IQLff0Ldhc5 3tc9b+XT7YzWLY5rQKHE+hKqIAdvYfqqKQZFHBBXptSXUXBeYK5a4UT0fpnMP7toqr/9mLlK +FvDNeVwSo5I/abiqdek1lH0/xwYy9im8k4SRtLTAp7hAgMBAAGjggFUMIIBUDAMBgNVHRMB Af8EAjAAMFYGCWCGSAGG+EIBDQRJFkdUbyBnZXQgeW91ciBvd24gY2VydGlmaWNhdGUgZm9y IEZSRUUgaGVhZCBvdmVyIHRvIGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuQ0FjZXJ0Lm9yZzAOBgNVHQ8BAf8EBAMC A6gwQAYDVR0lBDkwNwYIKwYBBQUHAwQGCCsGAQUFBwMCBgorBgEEAYI3CgMEBgorBgEEAYI3 CgMDBglghkgBhvhCBAEwMgYIKwYBBQUHAQEEJjAkMCIGCCsGAQUFBzABhhZodHRwOi8vb2Nz cC5jYWNlcnQub3JnMDEGA1UdHwQqMCgwJqAkoCKGIGh0dHA6Ly9jcmwuY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZy9y ZXZva2UuY3JsMC8GA1UdEQQoMCaBEWEuaGVpZ2xAaGVpZ2wub3JngRFhbmRyZWFzQGhlaWds Lm9yZzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQ0FAAOCAgEAxM1hH9lKrDP3N+9mzQnj4LKt3/VDJHMl4jK/NmiK NKBvKobH+I2knDSeLq66wPMIyg/ynW8dXszb1lcc+5VSFhLYG6WY7HgA/DHUHDK47KrGvVYp EPsVGVLWJqGrW6JyeCns43Iyd4oXEuusbc8j/aeB93RYUpOW84RrO/GEs+ofKoF9sMz4Zfjl G0Z2GfPKgRUhPfeFNBvnM/60onKFIo3uuVS/ZuRSP/LcAY1k0AUA2aRDbEIrWgvA/6TjwZgF 4YL/FHqIl0qjP+xKEr4kaTXmZjvGuTuxPVTTBe1PdZdn4KfVCcTJDsorL29L5G+3E+HygykX 58SmQE9atW0Wwc8cv3QSqqNY8O8CA92o0E3vbsOx9qrYwRt19xD2U14RTqa2ejq9TgG88TN0 E79RYsaIt2iwym+1qV+Olrfoo5xJq3F9Mv3u9kXKsEhoNEhxg9qKWSaJsf4dFP377anelziy 6yqvbpJmrA5zHPhYjD6b8XDgwCPfbpGjVGupdrVrLF2Gx8ghVBPFnXY2/S30NPYPca5L5+cE zxw6UY139RmqXtDHk3qwSnnuS2WjgHqWbk7DNlosduIjk6CFlr/mx2kU3vVX2Nf8fIXnBNUA w12nFtTPv5ULYXR4t4IAWLFKpFF7n4Px6BZL/ttPWlyOA2xhQ7bvwk5v83vyXqvRexoxggOx MIIDrQIBATCBgDB5MRAwDgYDVQQKEwdSb290IENBMR4wHAYDVQQLExVodHRwOi8vd3d3LmNh Y2VydC5vcmcxIjAgBgNVBAMTGUNBIENlcnQgU2lnbmluZyBBdXRob3JpdHkxITAfBgkqhkiG 9w0BCQEWEnN1cHBvcnRAY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZwIDEjg+MA0GCWCGSAFlAwQCAQUAoIICATAYBgkq hkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0xNjEyMDExNjE1MjhaMC8G CSqGSIb3DQEJBDEiBCD6KZB+WqvxrTbnAXGan7xGv10r6wA3Njr8V1KfZUYxHzBsBgkqhkiG 9w0BCQ8xXzBdMAsGCWCGSAFlAwQBKjALBglghkgBZQMEAQIwCgYIKoZIhvcNAwcwDgYIKoZI hvcNAwICAgCAMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgFAMAcGBSsOAwIHMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgEoMIGRBgkr BgEEAYI3EAQxgYMwgYAweTEQMA4GA1UEChMHUm9vdCBDQTEeMBwGA1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3 dy5jYWNlcnQub3JnMSIwIAYDVQQDExlDQSBDZXJ0IFNpZ25pbmcgQXV0aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJ KoZIhvcNAQkBFhJzdXBwb3J0QGNhY2VydC5vcmcCAxI4PjCBkwYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxgYOg gYAweTEQMA4GA1UEChMHUm9vdCBDQTEeMBwGA1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jYWNlcnQub3Jn MSIwIAYDVQQDExlDQSBDZXJ0IFNpZ25pbmcgQXV0aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJz dXBwb3J0QGNhY2VydC5vcmcCAxI4PjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQB9Y+B5zAmua2WZCneX CGHxFPIL4QUL6ntgSX56OaMmCZ7q0cKGAKn0A84egDUD5q/VLpCUcgy8RIJw/FwocnrmKGpy /3i+4QGwy7p+kJ8AxzpSF2Ywm/tlP+IDbTiD1L6Tq5p8dpGHZUXSQd9ADWLntvVmNQJFLyAT mwKnNQ4q6khdw0L3sFYbNqSrj5HKMcfgazFSVV7awACX+xuM/BiG5wgQMdUlj5/bA2OAloHP CIxKmMnML0kr1DnB/rVXSFP3O7UHQ6Ul2/3y5UEHhgbhNmrmL7FsZ+rx3ghqIFIiRB2UFE5F yiZ8EgvOmgom4uVqOqjxv+kzETGCQE/qrwRHAAAAAAAA --------------ms050102030803050809090806--