Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:97242 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28362 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2016 02:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Dec 2016 02:10:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=me@daveyshafik.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=me@daveyshafik.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain daveyshafik.com from 209.85.213.177 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: me@daveyshafik.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.177 mail-yb0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.177] ([209.85.213.177:33756] helo=mail-yb0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 28/A2-01781-218D0485 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 21:10:28 -0500 Received: by mail-yb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id v132so35198359yba.0 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 18:10:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=daveyshafik-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=yEoU3t6d9fbGEshZG3ICXzMO21ygMHl5hwBNeUV/GTc=; b=k1D3nRZLXLRVCPpucNpjfHCDIRTfSAqeude0BNCYDoK/b/iSt1BTIN+dDfPktt1eCj qC8GAMejPHMSVj1rhFH0CahtTFnqPGH7mp5ViH/5aO5n2+nS9YU1NaAgpoNbQ7VkdMyR QijlPhP1jOtl2Q+wSE8WEBUVd/7l00MEUDfXe8LRqjCmHKqbvPkT/9X1j6nH86GYcXJD j4yjhQdDw9loS7OjKnpStr8GWDQF3mVGmWsaXtGx7b5p8uGljfFCK8mYRZ7SpE35dcXo +LZqNuGMOj3TPDA5rsJuXUSi7d4Bgfy0BWND1YYck7ltn697z72DY1zf53RM6sMb8EQk C4Sg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yEoU3t6d9fbGEshZG3ICXzMO21ygMHl5hwBNeUV/GTc=; b=aAd8upHkCUvd3LaJ1Vr5CHAIS42WCblSl1rLJx3xbKFBZKKayXxVya5CTvbTZBO4cJ 3eGnALgDSdKf+4V8impgoAA0SrCXKkGACTrK3GFVefJ0B10Qt2s6ZJPUGvWUM87lvuzs Hn1UZaBzIdx7zUW5WNrUM8yE+ioBzJ06We+1JkzJPb+e9aTRWu5kD7ROthAnHwfAVBbo LWXgioB6/BSA/jNRglF5noqDW4S2ek9kIO8L1srgP1UstQ7TGdcLcsWy3ZrzgOoGEEX7 mk1ti0aA1swbFaw5WzSB/phbViA2hYbnrwBnE5S2IC64DJm7TxirOcmYmcN0e5JeBReE n2bQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01JBKg27ZTPcNy0GO9y1/2MAij8as9+2voSZM01t9FJlK+3GNaQqHUBtbtghhyJHEjVCLSfMyMlqJRLBRyb X-Received: by 10.37.79.69 with SMTP id d66mr14947176ybb.184.1480644623639; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 18:10:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: me@daveyshafik.com Received: by 10.129.160.147 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 18:10:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <52914793-24da-2dd2-fda8-372720f80475@gmail.com> <57bdb75a-f019-8910-3347-ad3c6657b183@heigl.org> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 18:10:23 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ACeRrCIvJjN8wf8yHCGBeOoCPK8 Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: Derick Rethans , Andreas Heigl , Eli , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113c46fed4da810542a37093 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php.net mailing setup owner? From: davey@php.net (Davey Shafik) --001a113c46fed4da810542a37093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > > > > I think it's time to retire Ecelerity. Nobody knows how it works. if > > It'd be postfix, I would likely have checked one of these ghost mail > > reports out... > > > > I don't think anyone disagrees with that, but at the same time it is a lot > of work to switch and get a secure and efficient anti-spam mail server > working well these days. I'm going to assume that outsourcing it (with sponsorship?) is out of the question? --001a113c46fed4da810542a37093--