GSoC

Hannes also has some ideas on improving our bug tracker as a GSoC project.

And I am thinking about this:
http://derickrethans.nl/wanted_dbgp_xdebug_client.php

Do you guys think that would qualify as php project as well?

regards,
Derick

Hello guys,

PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put the
following on php.net. Any comments?

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The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google Summer of Code.
We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In case you
want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project, PHP, and get
some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should contact us at
internals@php.net. The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of March 2007.
The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If you have
not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here
http://code.google.com/soc.

No objections.

Hannes also has some ideas on improving our bug tracker as a GSoC project.

Right.
Allowing attachments (.diff, blocking .php as reproduce cases
shouldn't be more than 20lines anyway), tracking CVS commits,
status/category/assignment history...

And a little look&feel update wouldn't hurt either...

-Hannes

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Hello Ilia,

of course we can. The question is how do we find a student for ideas we
have?

best regards
marcus

Thursday, March 15, 2007, 4:21:01 PM, you wrote:

Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by
creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project, but in
terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally
useful. Probably more so then any one extension that can come out of
GSoC.

Hello guys,

PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put
the
following on php.net. Any comments?

---

The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google
Summer of Code.
We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In
case you
want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project,
PHP, and get
some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should
contact us at
internals@php.net. The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of
March 2007.
The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If
you have
not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here
http://code.google.com/soc.

Best regards,
Marcus

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Best regards,
Marcus

Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Can we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by
creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project, but in
terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally useful.

MySQL has exactly the same project (including more QA related ones).
I will add it to ideas.php.

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Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by
creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project

Another QA-related project idea: a rewrite of run-tests.php. Marcus and
I discussed this a while ago when I brainstormed on a rewrite of
bench.php.

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Hey Ilia

This is a fantastic idea! And as for not being complex - actually I
think it is quite a challenge. I (and a couple of colleagues) have spent
a bit of time over the past two months trying to work out how best to do
this, you need to get a pretty good idea of how PHP works in order to
be able to write the tests. This might not seem to hard to you who are
already so familiar with the internals but - for a student that wanted
to get a good understanding of how PHP works - this would be a great
project. And of course - gaining this kind of understanding in PHP means
that you get to understand general principles that apply to other languages.

Zoe
IBM

Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by
creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project, but in
terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally useful.
Probably more so then any one extension that can come out of GSoC.

Hello guys,

PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put the
following on php.net. Any comments?

---

The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google Summer
of Code.
We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In
case you
want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project,
PHP, and get
some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should
contact us at
internals@php.net. The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of
March 2007.
The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If
you have
not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here
http://code.google.com/soc.

Best regards,
Marcus

--

Ilia Alshanetsky

you should look at ffmpeg and other multi-codec libraries (sdl?)

ffmpeg is cool, and probably good for this, but I'm not sure what you
want to do with SDL library.

Tijnema

I splice the ID3 tags onto the front of an MP3 stream in PHP on this
site:

http://uncommonground.com/

The id3 library in PHP is quite good at this, but needs a maintainer...

Well, it is a start, now only processing work needs to be done :)
To convert from MP3 to Wave for example, I think this will require the
LAME lib, and to use with OGG, it will require the OGGvorbis lib. But
about WMA, I never saw a Linux lib for it. So that would require
creating a new lib for WMA, or directly implementing it into the PHP
source. So the MP3 and OGG support shouldn't bee too hard to
implement, but other file formats might be harder. And now I'm only
talking about Audio, my first idea was to implement Video
(Audio+Video). Video is even more advanced, then we should work with
DivX and XviD codecs. (Thank god, they are Open Source). But having
this support for video, it would be possible to easily create a site
like youtube, where they even have a "screenshot" of the movie, which
is actually just a frame in the middle of the file. And of course it
would be possible to resize the video files.

Kind Regards,

Tijnema

Hello Tijnema,

cool, have a look at the site then. If Ilia didn't update it just
wait a
bit - we are having network problems here during the conference.

best regards
marcus

Hi,

I read a lot of text, just for information and i like the idea of
GSoC. There are some interesting things on the PHP Ideas list, and it
looks like this idea is the simplest one. As the phpt file structure
is quite easy and there's (AFAIK) no knowledge of C/C++ needed. Only a
little bit PHP programming, and writing the expected result :)

But i have also some ideas, but i have no idea if it is possible or
useful in PHP. For example i'd like to see support for handling
audio/video files in PHP, to do all kind of music processing in PHP,
or create music streams directly from within a website. I haven't seen
this on any other web based programming language yet.

Kind Regards,

Tijnema

ps. Yes i know the oggvorbis PECL package, but this is only for OGG.

Thursday, March 15, 2007, 10:09:11 PM, you wrote:

Hello Ilia,

of course we can. The question is how do we find a student for
ideas we
have?

best regards
marcus

I'm a student :)

I'm not sure what the requirements for this are, but i've
programmed a
lot in PHP and C/C++.

Tijnema

Thursday, March 15, 2007, 4:21:01 PM, you wrote:

Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP
by
creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project,
but in
terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally
useful. Probably more so then any one extension that can come
out of
GSoC.

Hello guys,

PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets
we put
the
following on php.net. Any comments?

---

The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google
Summer of Code.
We are still looking for project ideas of interested students.
In
case you
want to spend your summer with your favorite open source
project,
PHP, and get
some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should
contact us at
internals@php.net. The deadline for submitting ideas is the
24th of
March 2007.
The current list of ideas can be seen here
http://php.net/ideas. If
you have
not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here
http://code.google.com/soc.

Best regards,
Marcus

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I splice the ID3 tags onto the front of an MP3 stream in PHP on this
site:

http://uncommonground.com/

The id3 library in PHP is quite good at this, but needs a maintainer...

Well, it is a start, now only processing work needs to be done :)
To convert from MP3 to Wave for example, I think this will require the
LAME lib, and to use with OGG, it will require the OGGvorbis lib. But
about WMA, I never saw a Linux lib for it. So that would require
creating a new lib for WMA, or directly implementing it into the PHP
source. So the MP3 and OGG support shouldn't bee too hard to
implement, but other file formats might be harder. And now I'm only
talking about Audio, my first idea was to implement Video
(Audio+Video). Video is even more advanced, then we should work with
DivX and XviD codecs. (Thank god, they are Open Source). But having
this support for video, it would be possible to easily create a site
like youtube, where they even have a "screenshot" of the movie, which
is actually just a frame in the middle of the file. And of course it
would be possible to resize the video files.

I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing in PHP.
PHP is about interface, clients are not going to wait an hour or two for a page to load.

Like i said, video resizing might be useful for sites like youtube.
And what i'm trying to do with audio is more extending the limits of
PHP. Ever wanted to become a web DJ?

There is a bunch of mature opensource utilities (transcoder, lame, oggenc etc.) and you
can always use them to convert WAV to MP3 and AVI to OGG, it's just a matter of implementation.
What about WMA? do you know a library/encoder dat does convert from/to WMA?

That said, I would be glad to see a PECL extension able to read video files and grab screenshots
(that seems to be quite common requirement).
The ffmpeg extension is GPLed, which is a no-no for PECL.

Well, video files are just a set of frames, so if a PECL extension is
able to read video files, they already need to be decoded, and so, all
work is done already, it shoudl be very easy to also create other
formats then.

Re sound files, we already do have something: http://cvs.php.net/viewvc.cgi/pecl/sndfile/
It just wasn't released.

Ah, never checked the CVS for items. I will take a look at this PECL
extension, and see what's done already :)

Tijnema

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Wbr,
Antony Dovgal

I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing in PHP.
PHP is about interface, clients are not going to wait an hour or two for a page to load.

I think this is a limitation in your grasp of where and why PHP is being
used. I (and many others I've seen pass through php-general -- and
countless others I'm sure) use PHP as a general purpose scripting engine
for not just the web, but for shell scripts, and anything else that
comes to mind. I'm sure the PHP-GTK and other GUI binding extensions
would argue with you also.

Cheers,
Rob.

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I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing
in PHP.
PHP is about interface, clients are not going to wait an hour or two
for a page to load.

Errrr.

Actually, I have many PHP scripts with fire up exec processes to
encode .wav to mp3 hifi and lofi, and then schlep them around from
server to server to have redundancy.

These are done as background processes.

Then in real-time the ID3 is spliced in before a fopen/fread loop of
the MP3 audio stream -- The ID3 info is updated by the artists at
their convenience, for live audio recorded at our music venue.

For a small file, on-the-fly conversion to the user's choice of
audio format would, in fact, be VERY useful to me without the penalty
of firing up 'exec' and the performance on a not-so-busy server would
be acceptable.

I sometimes get requests for formats other than MP3, but I simply
cannot store (and manage and admin) another 55,000+ files just to have
a different audio format.

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I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing

Whoops!

Sorry.

I missed the part about being sane.

That makes my previous post invalid.

:-)

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Know what I want?
I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist.
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Yeah, I get a buck. So?