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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:52:37 +0100
To: "Antony Dovgal" <antony@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
From: tijnema@gmail.com ("Tijnema !")

On 3/21/07, Antony Dovgal <antony@zend.com> wrote:
> On 03/21/2007 03:48 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 11:57 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing in PHP.
> >> PHP is about interface, clients are not going to wait an hour or two for a page to load.
> >
> > I think this is a limitation in your grasp of where and why PHP is being
> > used. I (and many others I've seen pass through php-general -- and
> > countless others I'm sure) use PHP as a general purpose scripting engine
> > for not just the web, but for shell scripts, and anything else that
> > comes to mind.
>
> I'm using PHP as a general purpose language either, but that doesn't mean I'm encoding video with it.
> There are specialized tools for that and I don't think we should re-implement them just "because we can" (c).
>
> Btw, if you read whole discussion (and not just the last email), you'd see that nobody even mentioned CLI.
>
> > I'm sure the PHP-GTK and other GUI binding extensions would argue with you also.
>
> --
> Wbr,
> Antony Dovgal

Well, what I'm doing nowadays is using PHP for more then only creating
websites. As at this point a large amount of people is on broadband
and not caring about a big site. Also the server's are getting faster,
of course it still requires a good server to handle a lot of video
encoding/decoding tasks, but this could also be done with 1 at a time,
setting the others in wait list stored in a database for example. I
never care about speed, I want things be done easily. and that's one
of the biggest reasons i'm using PHP for about everything. if you
compare PHP with C/C++ then is PHP a lot simpler, for example PHP
variables are just defined when using them for the first time. And
then you don't need to define what it exactly is, is it an array?,
integer?, string? and just a little bit later i changed my mind and
use the same variable as something else. If a real PHP Compiler
existed I think I would even write programs in PHP. I'm just trying to
extend the limits of PHP what it is now. Currently it supports already
a lot of things, from databases to XML parsing :)
And of course the portability of PHP is very nice. Most scripts run on
browser and CLI, windows and linux.
But not everyone is using PHP like me, and that's why I'm talking here
with you guys about my ideas. And so if there's enough interest we
could start a new project. But it seems like that there's not enough
interest for this project.
I also noted a PHP Compiler, I saw some tools on the net about this,
but found that it was only for creating windows applications, anyone
saw a PHP compiler for linux?

Regards,

Tijnema
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