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Hi,

It seems that VC++ 8.0 (Visual Studio 2005) brings more trouble that its
worth. Mainly the way it deals with the C runtime. After spending hours
and hours of trying to figure out the way to make PHP work under Apache
on Windows and be able to load extensions, I'm throwing in the towel.

I can get PHP to work fine on the command line, both cgi and cli. It
also works fine under IIS using fastcgi. But loading sapi dll into a
webserver (not using php.exe or php-cgi.exe) works for the sapi itself,
but trying to load any extensions via php.ini fails miserably. Sometimes
you will get an error that the C runtime was attempted to be loaded in
an illegal way, sometime PHP will claim that the extension does not
exist, etc.

Confirmed.

I looked around at other projects and everyone seems to be using VC++
6.0 for their builds (Active state, apache, ...) which eliminates all
the hassle with bundling C runtime, etc.

So I think the best thing for us would be to stick to the good old C
compiler for making the Windows distro.

I'm not sure which the best one of compiler. But agree, I think the
old compiler is a right one ATM. While still investigating and finding
the solution to make everything works.

BTW, is it just suspend for swicthing to VC++ 8.0 or stick on the old
one (for future plan) ?

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Firman Wandayandi <http://firmanw.org/

Edin,

Thanks for the detailed analysis and spending time analyzing the
issue. Based on what you've said I think our best option is to go
back to VC++ 6.0 for this release, we are too far along in the
release cycle to experiment with things. Perhaps for the next release
we can revisit the issue, assuming there an interest and a benefit of
using VC++ 8.0 can be quantified.

I looked around at other projects and everyone seems to be using VC++
6.0 for their builds (Active state, apache, ...) which eliminates all
the hassle with bundling C runtime, etc.

So I think the best thing for us would be to stick to the good old C
compiler for making the Windows distro.

Ilia Alshanetsky

Edin Kadribasic wrote:

I can get PHP to work fine on the command line, both cgi and cli. It
also works fine under IIS using fastcgi. But loading sapi dll into a
webserver (not using php.exe or php-cgi.exe) works for the sapi itself,
but trying to load any extensions via php.ini fails miserably. Sometimes
you will get an error that the C runtime was attempted to be loaded in
an illegal way, sometime PHP will claim that the extension does not
exist, etc.

Questions;

This is WinXP SP2 fully updated? (E.g. all security 'fixes' snuck in?)

Extensions are located in the same directory as php5ts.dll itself?

The webservers you are testing with use the same msvcr as the php build?
(Depends.exe in the psdk or vc product is wonderful for inspecting this.)

Hi Edin,

Thanks for trying to get this to work!

I think eventually it'll be the right move to go to VC8 but I agree that if
it risks a successful 5.2.1 release then it might not be worth doing that
right now. If you can share with us a reproducing case we can try and look
into it and see if we can get it to work. So far we have concentrated on
CLI/CGI/FastCGi because that's the most feasible way of running, but I agree
that you also need to get the other methods to run.

For those who are curious, there are some significant performance
improvements in VC8. Our tolower() optimization which is significant is only
for VC8, the compiler creates significantly faster code (on par with Intel
C/C++ compiler), and I believe some of the CRT functions like time() are
also much faster. So I think it's definitely worth upgrading but it should
be well timed.

Anyway, let us know and we'll try and dig deeper and help get this puppy
ported and update the build. There probably is some work that needs to be
done on the 3rd party libs.

Thanks.

Andi

-----Original Message-----
From: Edin Kadribasic [mailto:edin@krug.dk]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 7:48 PM
To: PHP Internals List
Subject: [PHP-DEV] Windows build

Hey,

It seems that VC++ 8.0 (Visual Studio 2005) brings more
trouble that its worth. Mainly the way it deals with the C
runtime. After spending hours and hours of trying to figure
out the way to make PHP work under Apache on Windows and be
able to load extensions, I'm throwing in the towel.

I can get PHP to work fine on the command line, both cgi and
cli. It also works fine under IIS using fastcgi. But loading
sapi dll into a webserver (not using php.exe or php-cgi.exe)
works for the sapi itself, but trying to load any extensions
via php.ini fails miserably. Sometimes you will get an error
that the C runtime was attempted to be loaded in an illegal
way, sometime PHP will claim that the extension does not exist, etc.

I looked around at other projects and everyone seems to be
using VC++ 6.0 for their builds (Active state, apache, ...)
which eliminates all the hassle with bundling C runtime, etc.

So I think the best thing for us would be to stick to the
good old C compiler for making the Windows distro.

Edin

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