Hi internals,
After a good round of discussion, I updated the original "abstract final
class" proposal into a "static class" proposal.
However, I kept both patches online so it's up to voters decide which one
it could be implemented.
Patches are now complete and voting phase starts now and will be active
until 12/19/2014.
As this is a language update, it requires 2/3 pro or against the feature.
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abstract_final_class
Happy voting!
Regards,
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Hi,
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi internals,
After a good round of discussion, I updated the original "abstract final
class" proposal into a "static class" proposal.
However, I kept both patches online so it's up to voters decide which one
it could be implemented.
Patches are now complete and voting phase starts now and will be active
until 12/19/2014.As this is a language update, it requires 2/3 pro or against the feature.
Why does the example use final
?
final static class Environment
{
private static $rootDirectory = '/var/www/project';
public static function getRootDirectory()
{
return self::$rootDirectory;
}
}
Also, the vote presents 2 options. The RFC is in a weird state where it
mentions "abstract final" but doesn't explain anything about them. The
votes don't seem to be what the example is...
Could you edit your RFC?
Happy voting!
Regards,
--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/Canada
Cheers,
Florian Margaine
It's part of the history of that RFC, accessible here:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abstract_final_class?rev=1417060830
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Florian Margaine florian@margaine.com
wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote:Hi internals,
After a good round of discussion, I updated the original "abstract final
class" proposal into a "static class" proposal.
However, I kept both patches online so it's up to voters decide which one
it could be implemented.
Patches are now complete and voting phase starts now and will be active
until 12/19/2014.As this is a language update, it requires 2/3 pro or against the feature.
Why does the example use
final
?final static class Environment
{
private static $rootDirectory = '/var/www/project';
public static function getRootDirectory()
{
return self::$rootDirectory;
}
}Also, the vote presents 2 options. The RFC is in a weird state where it
mentions "abstract final" but doesn't explain anything about them. The
votes don't seem to be what the example is...Could you edit your RFC?
Happy voting!
Regards,
--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/CanadaCheers,
Florian Margaine
--
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MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/Canada
Hi,
Le 12 déc. 2014 17:28, "guilhermeblanco@gmail.com" <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> a écrit :
It's part of the history of that RFC, accessible here:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abstract_final_class?rev=1417060830
But then it isn't clear as of right now. What is proposed? The example? The
votes? What does final
has to do with static
?
I'm confused.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Florian Margaine florian@margaine.com
wrote:Hi,
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote:Hi internals,
After a good round of discussion, I updated the original "abstract final
class" proposal into a "static class" proposal.
However, I kept both patches online so it's up to voters decide which
one
it could be implemented.
Patches are now complete and voting phase starts now and will be active
until 12/19/2014.As this is a language update, it requires 2/3 pro or against the
feature.Why does the example use
final
?final static class Environment
{
private static $rootDirectory = '/var/www/project';
public static function getRootDirectory()
{
return self::$rootDirectory;
}
}Also, the vote presents 2 options. The RFC is in a weird state where it
mentions "abstract final" but doesn't explain anything about them. The
votes don't seem to be what the example is...Could you edit your RFC?
Happy voting!
Regards,
--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/CanadaCheers,
Florian Margaine
--
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GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/Canada
Cheers,
Florian
RFC is updated exposing both possible usages with both explanations.
Hope it doesn't confuse even more.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Florian Margaine florian@margaine.com
wrote:
Hi,
Le 12 déc. 2014 17:28, "guilhermeblanco@gmail.com" <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> a écrit :It's part of the history of that RFC, accessible here:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abstract_final_class?rev=1417060830But then it isn't clear as of right now. What is proposed? The example?
The votes? What doesfinal
has to do withstatic
?I'm confused.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Florian Margaine florian@margaine.com
wrote:Hi,
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote:Hi internals,
After a good round of discussion, I updated the original "abstract
final
class" proposal into a "static class" proposal.
However, I kept both patches online so it's up to voters decide which
one
it could be implemented.
Patches are now complete and voting phase starts now and will be active
until 12/19/2014.As this is a language update, it requires 2/3 pro or against the
feature.Why does the example use
final
?final static class Environment
{
private static $rootDirectory = '/var/www/project';
public static function getRootDirectory()
{
return self::$rootDirectory;
}
}Also, the vote presents 2 options. The RFC is in a weird state where it
mentions "abstract final" but doesn't explain anything about them. The
votes don't seem to be what the example is...Could you edit your RFC?
Happy voting!
Regards,
--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/CanadaCheers,
Florian Margaine
--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/CanadaCheers,
Florian
--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/Canada
Hi,
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:35 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote:
RFC is updated exposing both possible usages with both explanations.
Hope it doesn't confuse even more.
Perfect! Thanks.
Cheers,
--
Florian Margaine
RFC is updated exposing both possible usages with both explanations.
Hope it doesn't confuse even more.
Hi, in your "As static class” example, it doesn’t really demonstrate that you can omit the “static” modifier from the function declarations.
Also, it’s not clear if the same applies to “As abstract final”.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Florian Margaine florian@margaine.com
wrote:Hi,
Le 12 déc. 2014 17:28, "guilhermeblanco@gmail.com" <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> a écrit :It's part of the history of that RFC, accessible here:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abstract_final_class?rev=1417060830But then it isn't clear as of right now. What is proposed? The example?
The votes? What doesfinal
has to do withstatic
?I'm confused.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Florian Margaine florian@margaine.com
wrote:Hi,
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote:Hi internals,
After a good round of discussion, I updated the original "abstract
final
class" proposal into a "static class" proposal.
However, I kept both patches online so it's up to voters decide which
one
it could be implemented.
Patches are now complete and voting phase starts now and will be active
until 12/19/2014.As this is a language update, it requires 2/3 pro or against the
feature.Why does the example use
final
?final static class Environment
{
private static $rootDirectory = '/var/www/project';
public static function getRootDirectory()
{
return self::$rootDirectory;
}
}Also, the vote presents 2 options. The RFC is in a weird state where it
mentions "abstract final" but doesn't explain anything about them. The
votes don't seem to be what the example is...Could you edit your RFC?
Happy voting!
Regards,
--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/CanadaCheers,
Florian Margaine
--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/CanadaCheers,
Florian--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/Canada
Hi everyone,
Voting is now closed.
Since this RFC required a 2/3 majority, the result is against the
implementation of this feature in PHP.
RFC is now updated and moved to withdrawn section.
Thanks,
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Tjerk Meesters tjerk.meesters@gmail.com
wrote:
RFC is updated exposing both possible usages with both explanations.
Hope it doesn't confuse even more.Hi, in your "As static class” example, it doesn’t really demonstrate that
you can omit the “static” modifier from the function declarations.Also, it’s not clear if the same applies to “As abstract final”.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Florian Margaine <florian@margaine.com
wrote:
Hi,
Le 12 déc. 2014 17:28, "guilhermeblanco@gmail.com" <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> a écrit :It's part of the history of that RFC, accessible here:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abstract_final_class?rev=1417060830But then it isn't clear as of right now. What is proposed? The example?
The votes? What doesfinal
has to do withstatic
?I'm confused.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Florian Margaine <
florian@margaine.com>
wrote:Hi,
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:12 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com <
guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote:Hi internals,
After a good round of discussion, I updated the original "abstract
final
class" proposal into a "static class" proposal.
However, I kept both patches online so it's up to voters decide which
one
it could be implemented.
Patches are now complete and voting phase starts now and will be
active
until 12/19/2014.As this is a language update, it requires 2/3 pro or against the
feature.Why does the example use
final
?final static class Environment
{
private static $rootDirectory = '/var/www/project';
public static function getRootDirectory()
{
return self::$rootDirectory;
}
}Also, the vote presents 2 options. The RFC is in a weird state where
it
mentions "abstract final" but doesn't explain anything about them. The
votes don't seem to be what the example is...Could you edit your RFC?
Happy voting!
Regards,
--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/CanadaCheers,
Florian Margaine
--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/CanadaCheers,
Florian--
Guilherme Blanco
MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/Canada
--
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MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/Canada
Patches are now complete and voting phase starts now and will be active
until 12/19/2014.
Hi,
After speaking about this RFC with other members of AFUP, we would be on
the -1 side for this.
Summarizing our thoughts :
- static classes should not be encouraged
- if the goal is to have a set of utility functions, they can be set
up in a namespace -- being able to autoload functions could prove
useful, though.
--
Pascal MARTIN, AFUP - French UG
http://php-internals.afup.org/
Hi Pascal,
I said this earlier, but considering purely namespaced functions and
autoloading is not the same as static classes. Namespaced functions doesn't
have support for variables and that's a huge strike against it and in favor
of static classes.
Cheers,
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Pascal Martin, AFUP <
mailing@pascal-martin.fr> wrote:
Patches are now complete and voting phase starts now and will be active
until 12/19/2014.Hi,
After speaking about this RFC with other members of AFUP, we would be on
the -1 side for this.Summarizing our thoughts :
- static classes should not be encouraged
- if the goal is to have a set of utility functions, they can be set up
in a namespace -- being able to autoload functions could prove useful,
though.--
Pascal MARTIN, AFUP - French UG
http://php-internals.afup.org/--
--
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MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com
GTalk: guilhermeblanco
Toronto - ON/Canada