23 years ago by Sterling Hughes — view source — reply

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The PHP development community is proud to announce the release of
PHP 5 Beta 1. Both source packages and a Win32 build are available, you
can find these packages at http://www.php.net/downloads.php. For a
complete list of changes, please refer to
http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php.

Some of the more major changes include:

PHP5 features the Zend Engine 2. For a list of Zend Engine 2
changes, please visit http://www.php.net/zend-engine-2.php.
XML support has been completely redone in PHP5, all extensions
are now focused around the excellent libxml2 library
(http://www.xmlsoft.org/).
SQLite has been bundled with PHP. For more information on SQLite,
please visit their website, http://www.hwaci.com/sw/sqlite/.
Streams have been greatly improved, including the ability to access
low-level socket operations on streams.
Due to issues surrounding the MySQL 4.0 license, the MySQL libraries
are no longer bundled with PHP. For more information on these
licensing changes please see the MySQL licensing policy [1]

Note: This is a beta version. It should not be used in production or
even semi-production web sites. There are known bugs in it, and in
addition, some of the features may change (based on feedback). We
encourage you to download and play with it (and report bugs[2] if you
find any!), but please do not replace your production installations of
PHP 4 at this time.

[1] http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing.html
[2] http://bugs.php.net/

23 years ago by Robert Cummings — view source — reply

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I read the licensing information in the above link, but I'm curious what
exactly in it necessitated the need to unbundle MySQL? Anyone have a
quick answer?

Cheers,
Rob.

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23 years ago by Derick Rethans — view source — reply

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It's GPL.

Derick

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23 years ago by Robert Cummings — view source — reply

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Ahhh crap. I read the PHP license a long time ago. I guess time faded my
memory and I began to think of it as GPL.

Thanks,
Rob.

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23 years ago by Sascha Schumann — view source — reply

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Note that the bundled library code was removed due to being
unmaintained.  The old bundled library code was in the public
domain and thus not subject to the GPL.  Only the MySQL 4
library is GPLed; the MySQL 3 library is not.

It is unfortunate that some people try to confuse the public
about this topic.

- Sascha

23 years ago by Manuel Lemos — view source — reply

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Hello,

Many people think that all Open Source software has a GPL license. I
guess it is that old Lenine say, if you repeat the same lie many times,
it becomes the truth, that today is known as propaganda. Credits for
this "Open Source lie" should go to RMS.

Anyway, MySQL 3 library seems to work perfectly to connect to MySQL 4
servers. What are MySQL 4 client library advantages?

Anyone thought of keep the bundle of MySQL 3 library? Was there a
problem, or is this unbundling initiative a sort of protest to make
MySQL AB reconsider MySQL 4 client library licensing?

Regards,
Manuel Lemos

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23 years ago by Elfyn McBratney — view source — reply

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Due to MySQL licensing. See the thread
http://news.php.net/article.php?group=php.internals&article=2479 from
there on.

PS- Did it really need to go to all those lists?

Elfyn

23 years ago by Robert Cummings — view source — reply

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Sorry I just hit reply-all :| My bad.

Cheers,
Rob.

23 years ago by Roman Neuhauser — view source — reply

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robert@wocmud.org / 2003-06-29 14:53:40 -0400:

"1. Free use for those who are 100% GPL"

    IOW, it's not free for PHP

"2. Free use for those who never copy, modify or distribute"

    IOW, it's not free for PHP

3. GPL would infect the whole PHP tree

    http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

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23 years ago by Tom Sommer — view source — reply

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Sterling Hughes wrote:

Is it a good idea to list it ON TOP of the download page?
Newbies will just think "Hey, I want the latest" and click the first
link they find...

The 5.0 B1 should be below the latest stable release, IMO...

The download section should also notify users that this is indeed an
UNSTABLE version...

My two cents :)

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23 years ago by Jaaboo — view source — reply

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PHP5 Beta1?

yesterday i have downloaded the bin version of php5 for windows.
here are some problems that i have during my install / test.
some of them i have solved but a few i can't figure out.

if you have installed apache1.3x and php4 before and want upgrade to
apache 1.3.x and php5 then you must replace the entry in the httpd.conf

from :

LoadModule php4_module c:/php/sapi/php4apache.dll

LoadModule php5_module c:/php/sapi/php4apache.dll

otherwise apache does not start. this is install.doc in the php distribution
tells you to use the first statement. it seems that the docs need some work
to reflect the new php5 config/install statements.

PHP5 comes without the clientlibs of mysql!!!

i find it very confusing that there is no more info about this on
www.php.net nor mysql.com
so what with lamp and wamp (will it be lans and wans for the new sqlite)

ok they don't budle mysql and php but how can we do it with php5 + mysql
where is the info , the how to ?
PHP5 have a completely new domxml extension . where is it ? the
recomended - php.ini in the distribution confuses you again with old module
entries that doesn't work.
what they meen with a complete new extension is it so new that we can't see
it? ;-)
i can't understand why they call it php5 beta1 , as long as mysql doesnt
work it can only called php5 alpha zero.

find infomation about php5 or the mysql probl. or domxml is like searching
for topsecret documents.

i find if they don't get mysql working the old way they will be so
incompatible that they can think again if they will introduce new syntax
like double underscore methods and other old stuff.
"__constructor()" why not constructor() ...

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23 years ago by Elfyn McBratney — view source — reply

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PHP5 Beta 1 (Get it :) is a beta. How to install the stable version is
documented, but beta's are intended, IMO, for developers and experienced users
to "try".

Due to the MySQL client library changing it's licensing terms from public domain
to GPL it can no longer be included with PHP. A "clause" is being worked on to
allow for this in the future.

In ext/domxml . Again it's beta. There are kinks to be ironed out. :)

Erm, it's beta because it is a beta. It has a new engine and new structure and
new...

Please don't send this and other musings to all of the available "user" lists.

Elfyn

PHP 5.0.0 Beta 1 View as Markdown

Cheers, Rob.

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robert@wocmud.org / 2003-06-29 14:53:40 -0400:

Cheers,
Rob.

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that read the future by examining animal entrails."

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that read the future by examining animal entrails."

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