Date flamewar summary

19 years ago by Edin Kadribasic — view source — reply

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I'm OK with DateTime and DateTimeZone too.

Edin

Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of
the votes so far:

Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively
Tony
Derick
Mike
Rasmus
Andi
Ilia

Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc..
Pierre
Steph

So it's 6 to 2 so far.

I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei
who had actively participated in the discussion.

Ilia Alshanetsky

19 years ago by John Coggeshall — view source — reply

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Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively
Tony
Derick
Mike
Rasmus
Andi
Ilia

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  John
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+1

John

19 years ago by Marcus Boerger — view source — reply

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Hello Edin,

Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 5:23:00 PM, you wrote:

I'm OK with DateTime and DateTimeZone too.

Edin

Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of
the votes so far:

Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively
Tony
Derick
Mike
Rasmus
Andi
Ilia

Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc..
Pierre
Steph

So it's 6 to 2 so far.

I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei
who had actively participated in the discussion.

i am not going to look up a link for where i said my opinion. But trust
i immediatley replied to andi as he was the first to offer a real name
solution and added me as +1. Apart from that i said 'DateTimeZone' from
the beginning (or was that on some channel...) well count me as +1

Best regards,
Marcus

19 years ago by Steph Fox — view source — reply

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Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of
the votes so far:

Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively
Tony
Derick
Mike
Rasmus
Andi
Ilia

Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc..
Pierre
Steph

So it's 6 to 2 so far.

I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei
who had actively participated in the discussion.

i am not going to look up a link for where i said my opinion. But trust
i immediatley replied to andi as he was the first to offer a real name
solution and added me as +1. Apart from that i said 'DateTimeZone' from
the beginning (or was that on some channel...) well count me as +1

I'm moving over to indicate my acceptance of the 'red-headed stepchild' just
so's we get close to total agreement amongst the warriors :)

+1

Steph

Best regards,
Marcus

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19 years ago by Ron Korving — view source — reply

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I don't wanna be a nitpicker here, but I've seen DateTimeZone and
DateTimezone both used in the discussion. I'm not sure which would be the
popular one.

Ron

PS: shake hands and make up.. group hug everyone? :)

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Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of
the votes so far:

Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively
Tony
Derick
Mike
Rasmus
Andi
Ilia

Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc..
Pierre
Steph

So it's 6 to 2 so far.

I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei
who had actively participated in the discussion.

Ilia Alshanetsky

19 years ago by Ilia Alshanetsky — view source — reply

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Class names are not case sensitive, so it does not matter if it is
FooBar or fooBar or even FoObAR.

I don't wanna be a nitpicker here, but I've seen DateTimeZone and
DateTimezone both used in the discussion. I'm not sure which would
be the
popular one.

Ron

PS: shake hands and make up.. group hug everyone? :)

"Ilia Alshanetsky" ilia@prohost.org schreef in bericht
news:53CE8C91-B388-4DC8-81B1-15B7F17C3162@prohost.org...

Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of
the votes so far:

Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone
respectively
Tony
Derick
Mike
Rasmus
Andi
Ilia

Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc..
Pierre
Steph

So it's 6 to 2 so far.

I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei
who had actively participated in the discussion.

Ilia Alshanetsky

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Ilia Alshanetsky

19 years ago by Lukas Smith — view source — reply

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Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Class names are not case sensitive, so it does not matter if it is
FooBar or fooBar or even FoObAR.

Ilia, since PHP5 we are case preserving. So it does matter, though only
stylistically, not technically.

regards,
Lukas

19 years ago by Derick Rethans — view source — reply

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Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Class names are not case sensitive, so it does not matter if it is FooBar or
fooBar or even FoObAR.

Ilia, since PHP5 we are case preserving. So it does matter, though only
stylistically, not technically.

DateTimeZone as "timezone" is not a word. (It's two words: "time zone")

Derick

19 years ago by Jani Taskinen — view source — reply

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Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of the votes
so far:

Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively
Tony
Derick
Mike
Rasmus
Andi
Ilia

Jani

Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc..
Pierre
Steph

So it's 6 to 2 so far.

I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei who had
actively participated in the discussion.

Ilia Alshanetsky

19 years ago by Sean Coates — view source — reply

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Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of the
votes so far:

Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively
FWIW, add me to this.

S

19 years ago by Steph Fox — view source — reply

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I don't recall saying 'don't do anything' at any stage...

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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:15 PM
Subject: [PHP-DEV] Date flamewar summary

Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of
the votes so far:

Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively
Tony
Derick
Mike
Rasmus
Andi
Ilia

Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc..
Pierre
Steph

So it's 6 to 2 so far.

I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei
who had actively participated in the discussion.

Ilia Alshanetsky

19 years ago by Ilia Alshanetsky — view source — reply

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am I quote

I already agreed with Pierre over this, and offered to support him in
giving PEAR support for upgrading. So long as it goes in from the
start of 5_3 branch, why not? (Like it should've done at the start of
5_2 already.) I think it's worth holding out for a few more months to
get sane names in there - and the original names are the sanest,
least confusing names.

Steph

I don't recall saying 'don't do anything' at any stage...

Ilia Alshanetsky

19 years ago by Steph Fox — view source — reply

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:) 'do nothing' just sounds like 'let's ignore this whole thing', and that's
really not what I meant there! But nm. It looks like DateTime/DateTimeZone
has the majority vote by a long chalk anyway, so be it.

Steph

am I quote

I already agreed with Pierre over this, and offered to support him in
giving PEAR support for upgrading. So long as it goes in from the
start of 5_3 branch, why not? (Like it should've done at the start of
5_2 already.) I think it's worth holding out for a few more months to
get sane names in there - and the original names are the sanest,
least confusing names.

Steph

I don't recall saying 'don't do anything' at any stage...

Ilia Alshanetsky

19 years ago by Andrei Zmievski — view source — reply

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Rename it to DateTime and DateTimeZone.

Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of
the votes so far:

Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone
respectively
Tony
Derick
Mike
Rasmus
Andi
Ilia

Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc..
Pierre
Steph

So it's 6 to 2 so far.

I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei
who had actively participated in the discussion.

Ilia Alshanetsky

19 years ago by Sara Golemon — view source — reply

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Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of
the votes so far:

My $0.02USD;

Most Ideal: Grant the 'Date' namespace to Internals (Not going to happen for
the volume of reasons already discussed.) DO NOT REPLY WITH ALL THE REASONS
I AM WRONG FOR HAVING THIS OPINION. I ACCEPT THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN. SO
DON'T.......NONONONO NO BUTS, I SAID DON'T.

Least Ideal: Leave it out entirely until 5.3. This was the argument during
the 5.1 RC stage. There's no excuse to be having this argument still.

Compromise: Give it the red-headed-stepchild names of DateTime and
DateTimeZone.

-Sara

19 years ago by Alan Knowles — view source — reply

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+1 for adding the namespace patch in :) - oh well I can always dream...
Regards
Alan

Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of
the votes so far:

Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively
Tony
Derick
Mike
Rasmus
Andi
Ilia

Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc..
Pierre
Steph

So it's 6 to 2 so far.

I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei
who had actively participated in the discussion.

Ilia Alshanetsky

19 years ago by Jason Sweat — view source — reply

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+1 for adding the namespace patch in :) - oh well I can always dream...
Regards
Alan

+1 dreamer ( and +1 annoying de-lurker voting because he thinks it is
american idol ;)

Regards,
Jason
http://blog.casey-sweat.us/

19 years ago by bertrand Gugger — view source — reply

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Jason Sweat wrote:

+1 for adding the namespace patch in :) - oh well I can always dream...
Regards
Alan

+1 dreamer ( and +1 annoying de-lurker voting because he thinks it is
american idol ;)

Regards,
Jason
Why ?
I got schoked when I saw those 150 mails there.
Now I know it was just a Dream::Dreamer instance.
Regards
toggg