[RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle

8 years ago by Tony Marston — view source

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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:15 AM

To: Tony Marston
Cc: PHP Internals
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle

"Ferenc Kovacs" wrote in message news:CAH-PCH568TPsztkWT553QVQy7jsp1tcqT5w+OT1PoCDt-PbUOg@mail.gmail.com...

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Tony Marston TonyMarston@hotmail.com
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"Ferenc Kovacs" wrote in message news:CAH-PCH5qHdYen33Q_s7kTKM_
8qK71v8Ky6kT4fzuRfAwfX06BQ@mail.gmail.com...

Composer doesn't do that.

Then how come I've seen several complaints in various forums about
composer updating libraries in the background and screwing things up.

That proves nothing except that your knowledge is very limited.

indeed it does.

I can only report what I have read in various newsgroups and forums, and
they have said that composer has screwed up their installations. If it is
capable of doing that then it is a serious issue that needs addressing.

you can, but you shouldn't spread FUD but do your own research.
composer will only do something when you execute it, without providing any
actual problem, there is no way those could be refuted (FUD), and brings
nothing to the discussion.
what you have probably seen is people not using the tool properly
from my experience people usually screw 2 things up:

executing "composer update" without any arguments which will update
every package listed in your composer.json file to the latest version
allowed by the version constraints

not putting the composer.lock under version control and then being
surprised that the other developer who makes a "composer install" from
composer.json can have different(eg. more recent) versions installed

Perhaps users could be prevented from making such basic mistakes if they had a 21st century web interface instead of the archaic command line.

perhaps, or perhaps they would misclick, but now you are again trying to divert the discussion from actual problems to the land of FUD.

Have you considered the fact that some users think that the idea of being forced to use a command line interface ISa problem? Just because YOU like it is no reason to force your personal choice on everyone else.

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Tony Marston