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10 years ago by Charles R. Portwood II — view source — reply

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Hello Internals,

I'd like to improve the password_* functions by adding support for
Argon2[1], the winner of the Password Hasing Competition[2].

I've previously implemented an extension[3] to handle this, however I
believe this would be better to have Argon2 implemented directly password_*
functions. I would handle implementation of this enhancement, and would
like to gather your feedback before formally proposing an RFC.

My wiki username is: charlesportwoodii

Thank you!
Charles R. Portwood II

[1] https://github.com/P-H-C/phc-winner-argon2
[2] https://password-hashing.net/
[3] <https://github.com/charlesportwoodii/php-argon2-ext

10 years ago by Ferenc Kovacs — view source — reply

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On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Charles R. Portwood II <
charlesportwoodii@erianna.com> wrote:

Hello Internals,

I'd like to improve the password_* functions by adding support for
Argon2[1], the winner of the Password Hasing Competition[2].

I've previously implemented an extension[3] to handle this, however I
believe this would be better to have Argon2 implemented directly password_*
functions. I would handle implementation of this enhancement, and would
like to gather your feedback before formally proposing an RFC.

My wiki username is: charlesportwoodii

Thank you!
Charles R. Portwood II

[1] https://github.com/P-H-C/phc-winner-argon2
[2] https://password-hashing.net/
[3] https://github.com/charlesportwoodii/php-argon2-ext

hi,

I've granted you with rfc karma on the wiki

--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu

10 years ago by Pierre Joye — view source — reply

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On Jul 10, 2016 2:38 AM, "Charles R. Portwood II" <
charlesportwoodii@erianna.com> wrote:

Hello Internals,

I'd like to improve the password_* functions by adding support for
Argon2[1], the winner of the Password Hasing Competition[2].

I've previously implemented an extension[3] to handle this, however I
believe this would be better to have Argon2 implemented directly
password_*
functions. I would handle implementation of this enhancement, and would
like to gather your feedback before formally proposing an RFC.

My wiki username is: charlesportwoodii

Thank you!
Charles R. Portwood II

[1] https://github.com/P-H-C/phc-winner-argon2
[2] https://password-hashing.net/
[3] https://github.com/charlesportwoodii/php-argon2-ext

Hi Charles,

Nice work already.

I add Scott to this thread to be sure he reads. As far as I remember he has
a patch too but there was concerns about having argon2 support at this
stage because of the current state of argon2 specs (or something along this
line).

Let be sure that these concerns are solved before considering to include it
as it means some bc risks later if the specs change.

Cheers
Pierre

10 years ago by Scott Arciszewski — view source — reply

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Version 1.3 of the Argon2 spec alleviated my concerns.

I never completed my patch, and the past couple of months have been hectic.
I can review the patch before it's merged if you want, but I still don't
have the free time to author an alternative.

If accepted in 7.1, I believe it can be the new PASSWORD_DEFAULT in 7.3 if
it remains the best option.

Scott Arciszewski
Chief Development Officer
Paragon Initiative Enterprises https://paragonie.com

On Jul 10, 2016 2:38 AM, "Charles R. Portwood II" <
charlesportwoodii@erianna.com> wrote:

Hello Internals,

I'd like to improve the password_* functions by adding support for
Argon2[1], the winner of the Password Hasing Competition[2].

I've previously implemented an extension[3] to handle this, however I
believe this would be better to have Argon2 implemented directly
password_*
functions. I would handle implementation of this enhancement, and would
like to gather your feedback before formally proposing an RFC.

My wiki username is: charlesportwoodii

Thank you!
Charles R. Portwood II

[1] https://github.com/P-H-C/phc-winner-argon2
[2] https://password-hashing.net/
[3] https://github.com/charlesportwoodii/php-argon2-ext

Hi Charles,

Nice work already.

I add Scott to this thread to be sure he reads. As far as I remember he
has a patch too but there was concerns about having argon2 support at this
stage because of the current state of argon2 specs (or something along this
line).

Let be sure that these concerns are solved before considering to include
it as it means some bc risks later if the specs change.

Cheers
Pierre

10 years ago by Charles R. Portwood II — view source — reply

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On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 12:36 AM, Scott Arciszewski scott@paragonie.com
wrote:

Version 1.3 of the Argon2 spec alleviated my concerns.

I never completed my patch, and the past couple of months have been
hectic. I can review the patch before it's merged if you want, but I still
don't have the free time to author an alternative.

If accepted in 7.1, I believe it can be the new PASSWORD_DEFAULT in 7.3 if
it remains the best option.

Scott Arciszewski
Chief Development Officer
Paragon Initiative Enterprises https://paragonie.com

On Jul 10, 2016 2:38 AM, "Charles R. Portwood II" <
charlesportwoodii@erianna.com> wrote:

Hello Internals,

I'd like to improve the password_* functions by adding support for
Argon2[1], the winner of the Password Hasing Competition[2].

I've previously implemented an extension[3] to handle this, however I
believe this would be better to have Argon2 implemented directly
password_*
functions. I would handle implementation of this enhancement, and would
like to gather your feedback before formally proposing an RFC.

My wiki username is: charlesportwoodii

Thank you!
Charles R. Portwood II

[1] https://github.com/P-H-C/phc-winner-argon2
[2] https://password-hashing.net/
[3] https://github.com/charlesportwoodii/php-argon2-ext

Hi Charles,

Nice work already.

I add Scott to this thread to be sure he reads. As far as I remember he
has a patch too but there was concerns about having argon2 support at this
stage because of the current state of argon2 specs (or something along this
line).

Let be sure that these concerns are solved before considering to include
it as it means some bc risks later if the specs change.

Cheers
Pierre

Thanks for your feedback everyone (and for granting wiki access)!

This implementation would be against the version 1.3 of the Argon2
reference library. As Scott mentioned, this proposal would be for inclusion
on 7.1, and then made PASSWORD_DEFAULT in 7.3 per the password_hash RFC,
assuming better option does not arise.

I'll provide an RFC within the coming days which will outline everything in
detail.

Thanks again,

Charles R. Portwood II

10 years ago by Niklas Keller — view source — reply

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2016-07-10 21:27 GMT+02:00 Charles R. Portwood II <
charlesportwoodii@erianna.com>:

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 12:36 AM, Scott Arciszewski scott@paragonie.com
wrote:

Version 1.3 of the Argon2 spec alleviated my concerns.

I never completed my patch, and the past couple of months have been
hectic. I can review the patch before it's merged if you want, but I
still
don't have the free time to author an alternative.

If accepted in 7.1, I believe it can be the new PASSWORD_DEFAULT in 7.3
if
it remains the best option.

Scott Arciszewski
Chief Development Officer
Paragon Initiative Enterprises https://paragonie.com

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Pierre Joye pierre.php@gmail.com
wrote:

On Jul 10, 2016 2:38 AM, "Charles R. Portwood II" <
charlesportwoodii@erianna.com> wrote:

Hello Internals,

I'd like to improve the password_* functions by adding support for
Argon2[1], the winner of the Password Hasing Competition[2].

I've previously implemented an extension[3] to handle this, however I
believe this would be better to have Argon2 implemented directly
password_*
functions. I would handle implementation of this enhancement, and
would
like to gather your feedback before formally proposing an RFC.

My wiki username is: charlesportwoodii

Thank you!
Charles R. Portwood II

[1] https://github.com/P-H-C/phc-winner-argon2
[2] https://password-hashing.net/
[3] https://github.com/charlesportwoodii/php-argon2-ext

Hi Charles,

Nice work already.

I add Scott to this thread to be sure he reads. As far as I remember he
has a patch too but there was concerns about having argon2 support at
this
stage because of the current state of argon2 specs (or something along
this
line).

Let be sure that these concerns are solved before considering to include
it as it means some bc risks later if the specs change.

Cheers
Pierre

Thanks for your feedback everyone (and for granting wiki access)!

This implementation would be against the version 1.3 of the Argon2
reference library. As Scott mentioned, this proposal would be for inclusion
on 7.1, and then made PASSWORD_DEFAULT in 7.3 per the password_hash RFC,
assuming better option does not arise.

I'll provide an RFC within the coming days which will outline everything in
detail.

Thanks again,

Charles R. Portwood II

Hi Charles,

it will probably have to target 7.2 as 7.1 has feature freeze in less then
two weeks IIRC.

Regards, Niklas

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