Hello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2 RMs
elected.
Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people start
having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.
The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and focus
on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.
If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to handle
those tasks right now.
Thoughts ? ;-)
Julien.Pauli
Hello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2 RMs
elected.Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people start
having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and focus
on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to handle
those tasks right now.Thoughts ? ;-)
I think it is safe to keep master for now. Easier as there is still quite
some work. Tyrael and Anatol will have less merging work.
Cheers,
Pierre
Julien.Pauli
But an alpha timeline sounds good ;)
Hello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2 RMs
elected.Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people start
having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and focus
on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to handle
those tasks right now.Thoughts ? ;-)
I think it is safe to keep master for now. Easier as there is still quite
some work. Tyrael and Anatol will have less merging work.Cheers,
PierreJulien.Pauli
Hello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2 RMs
elected.Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people
start
having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and
focus
on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to handle
those tasks right now.Thoughts ? ;-)
I think it is safe to keep master for now. Easier as there is still quite
some work. Tyrael and Anatol will have less merging work.
I also, prefer not to make additional branch right now.
This will make merge overhead for every developer.
I also wouldn't start working on 7.1 and delay related RFC and PRs at least
until 7.0 RC.
If we need RM election, it should be done ASAP.
In my opinion, Anatol is a perfect candidate for new RM.
Thanks. Dmitry.
Cheers,
PierreJulien.Pauli
Hello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2 RMs
elected.Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people start
having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and focus
on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to handle
those tasks right now.Thoughts ? ;-)
Julien.Pauli
We put together a roadmap for 7.0 with Kalle:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70
Then the idea was brought up that we should consider other candidates other
than him, and we got sidetracked but did not really decide anything.
I agree that it would be nice sorting it out ASAP, but having the first
alpha on may 15th isn't feasible anymore.
I've created a vote about the RMs, this isn't something we used to do in
the past for (s)electing the RMs, but seeing how we couldn't reach an
agreement on the first round I think it would help sorting this out fast:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70#vote
Not sure that this should be a one or two week long poll, let's see what
others think.
--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
Hello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2 RMs
elected.Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people start
having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and focus
on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to handle
those tasks right now.Thoughts ? ;-)
Julien.Pauli
We put together a roadmap for 7.0 with Kalle:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70
Then the idea was brought up that we should consider other candidates other
than him, and we got sidetracked but did not really decide anything.
I agree that it would be nice sorting it out ASAP, but having the first
alpha on may 15th isn't feasible anymore.
I've created a vote about the RMs, this isn't something we used to do in
the past for (s)electing the RMs, but seeing how we couldn't reach an
agreement on the first round I think it would help sorting this out fast:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70#vote
There are no big issues to have a 3 people team. There will be enough
on your desk for 3.
Main point for all RMs team so far was to get experienced core
contributor on board as well as someone with planing and management
ability. The sooner is even more critical for 7.0.0 as we will most
likely have many requests to push one big change or another in the
engine or core extensions. Good knowledge of the impacts (on the
engine, stability status impact, etc) are more than required here.
Why you and Anatol makes perfect sense. Kalle can help a lot with the
numerous tasks that will pop up, testing patches cherry picks and all
these time consuming tasks.
Cheers,
Pierre
@pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org
Why you and Anatol makes perfect sense. Kalle can help a lot with the
numerous tasks that will pop up, testing patches cherry picks and all
these time consuming tasks.
I'd second that, as long as all three of you are happy to provide the time?
I would take it a step further though and while there should not be
major compatibility problems, some of the major frameworks may be able
to help out by sorting their own 'point of contact'. I still remember
the bug reports generated by PHP5 which in practice were simply areas
where one framework or another still had to iron out updating their end
of the code. I suspect this time around once the RC's are published
there will be ten times more eyes all complaining something does not
work? Even a team of three WILL need some help ... so triage by the
relevant experts to identify what are real bugs will be helpful?
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Hi!
We put together a roadmap for 7.0 with Kalle:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70
Then the idea was brought up that we should consider other candidates other
than him, and we got sidetracked but did not really decide anything.
I agree that it would be nice sorting it out ASAP, but having the first
alpha on may 15th isn't feasible anymore.
Yes, we have some unsolved issues (like Throwable) which we have to
handle before alpha.
Stas Malyshev
smalyshev@gmail.com
Hello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2 RMs
elected.Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people start
having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and focus
on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to handle
those tasks right now.Thoughts ? ;-)
Julien.Pauli
We put together a roadmap for 7.0 with Kalle:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70
Then the idea was brought up that we should consider other candidates
other than him, and we got sidetracked but did not really decide anything.
I agree that it would be nice sorting it out ASAP, but having the first
alpha on may 15th isn't feasible anymore.
I've created a vote about the RMs, this isn't something we used to do in
the past for (s)electing the RMs, but seeing how we couldn't reach an
agreement on the first round I think it would help sorting this out fast:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70#voteNot sure that this should be a one or two week long poll, let's see what
others think.--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
would be nice if we could get a couple of votes more!
--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
Hello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2 RMs
elected.Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people
start
having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and
focus
on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to handle
those tasks right now.Thoughts ? ;-)
Julien.Pauli
We put together a roadmap for 7.0 with Kalle:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70
Then the idea was brought up that we should consider other candidates
other than him, and we got sidetracked but did not really decide anything.
I agree that it would be nice sorting it out ASAP, but having the first
alpha on may 15th isn't feasible anymore.
I've created a vote about the RMs, this isn't something we used to do in
the past for (s)electing the RMs, but seeing how we couldn't reach an
agreement on the first round I think it would help sorting this out fast:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70#voteNot sure that this should be a one or two week long poll, let's see what
others think.--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.huwould be nice if we could get a couple of votes more!
I just voted :-)
OK, so let's wait a little bit more before branching.
I admit that having one more branch will turn any merge into more complex
work, even for PHP5 only developers - bug fixers.
Julien.P
2015-05-18 14:10 GMT+02:00 Julien Pauli jpauli@php.net:
I just voted :-)
OK, so let's wait a little bit more before branching.
Let's at least wait until 5.4 is EOL before branching, or around that
time so we don't end up with: 5 active branches, 4 is more than enough
to work with, even though 1 is just security only at release time.
--
regards,
Kalle Sommer Nielsen
kalle@php.net
Hello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2 RMs
elected.Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people start
having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and focus
on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to handle
those tasks right now.Thoughts ? ;-)
Julien.Pauli
We put together a roadmap for 7.0 with Kalle:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70
Then the idea was brought up that we should consider other candidates
other than him, and we got sidetracked but did not really decide anything.
I agree that it would be nice sorting it out ASAP, but having the first
alpha on may 15th isn't feasible anymore.
I've created a vote about the RMs, this isn't something we used to do in
the past for (s)electing the RMs, but seeing how we couldn't reach an
agreement on the first round I think it would help sorting this out fast:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70#voteNot sure that this should be a one or two week long poll, let's see what
others think.--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
a week passed and the Kalle & Anatol option is winning unanimously after 23
votes so far.
should we wait another week or would be okay to close the votes and
announce the RMs so that we can start working on preparing the first alpha?
--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
a week passed and the Kalle & Anatol option is winning unanimously after 23
votes so far.
should we wait another week or would be okay to close the votes and
announce the RMs so that we can start working on preparing the first alpha?
That seems reasonable to me. There was no real objection that anyone
raised, and support is unanimous on the vote so far. No reason to drag
it out longer than it has to go.
My $0.02
Anthony
Hello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2 RMs
elected.Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people
start
having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and
focus
on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to handle
those tasks right now.Thoughts ? ;-)
Julien.Pauli
We put together a roadmap for 7.0 with Kalle:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70
Then the idea was brought up that we should consider other candidates
other than him, and we got sidetracked but did not really decide anything.
I agree that it would be nice sorting it out ASAP, but having the first
alpha on may 15th isn't feasible anymore.
I've created a vote about the RMs, this isn't something we used to do in
the past for (s)electing the RMs, but seeing how we couldn't reach an
agreement on the first round I think it would help sorting this out fast:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70#voteNot sure that this should be a one or two week long poll, let's see what
others think.--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hua week passed and the Kalle & Anatol option is winning unanimously after
23 votes so far.
should we wait another week or would be okay to close the votes and
announce the RMs so that we can start working on preparing the first alpha?--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
As there were no objections I went ahead and closed the votes, congrats to
Kalle and Anatol, and welcome on the RM "board"!
With that out of the way, we can now focus on the actual process of getting
php7 out of the door, I expect having an irc session soonish with you two
where we can discuss the current status and update the roadmap/timetable
accordingly.
--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
Hi,
-----Original Message-----
From: Ferenc Kovacs [mailto:tyra3l@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:04 AM
To: Julien Pauli
Cc: PHP Internals
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Branching off PHP7 and electing RMsHello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2
RMs elected.Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people
start having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and
focus on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to
handle those tasks right now.Thoughts ? ;-)
Julien.Pauli
We put together a roadmap for 7.0 with Kalle:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70
Then the idea was brought up that we should consider other candidates
other than him, and we got sidetracked but did not really decide anything.
I agree that it would be nice sorting it out ASAP, but having the
first alpha on may 15th isn't feasible anymore.
I've created a vote about the RMs, this isn't something we used to do
in the past for (s)electing the RMs, but seeing how we couldn't reach
an agreement on the first round I think it would help sorting this out fast:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70#voteNot sure that this should be a one or two week long poll, let's see
what others think.--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hua week passed and the Kalle & Anatol option is winning unanimously
after
23 votes so far.
should we wait another week or would be okay to close the votes and
announce the RMs so that we can start working on preparing the first alpha?--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.huAs there were no objections I went ahead and closed the votes, congrats to
Kalle and Anatol, and welcome on the RM "board"!
With that out of the way, we can now focus on the actual process of getting
php7 out of the door, I expect having an irc session soonish with you two where
we can discuss the current status and update the roadmap/timetable
accordingly.
thanks for the confidence! I'm glad to take on the job.
Let's chat later today or tomorrow.
Regards
Anatol
Hello people.
Time is going, and summer is coming.
I think we must have branched 7.0 until end of May, and have our 2 RMs
elected.Don't forget we are starting a long testing process, and some people
start
having some PRs to target 7.1, so we need to branch.The plans are to branch so that we prevent any not-wanted merge, and
focus
on stabilization.
Start a calendar about our first alpha as well.If we want 7.0 to be released around October/November , we need to
handle
those tasks right now.Thoughts ? ;-)
Julien.Pauli
We put together a roadmap for 7.0 with Kalle:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70
Then the idea was brought up that we should consider other candidates
other than him, and we got sidetracked but did not really decide
anything.
I agree that it would be nice sorting it out ASAP, but having the first
alpha on may 15th isn't feasible anymore.
I've created a vote about the RMs, this isn't something we used to do in
the past for (s)electing the RMs, but seeing how we couldn't reach an
agreement on the first round I think it would help sorting this out
fast:
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php70#voteNot sure that this should be a one or two week long poll, let's see what
others think.--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hua week passed and the Kalle & Anatol option is winning unanimously after
23
votes so far.
should we wait another week or would be okay to close the votes and
announce the RMs so that we can start working on preparing the first
alpha?
The latter please....the latter :)
--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu