Using stadards@lists.php.net for spec work

10 years ago by Stas Malyshev — view source

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Hi!

I would like to propose to use list stadards@lists.php.net (which has
been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think?

Of course it's standards@lists.php.net.

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Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect
SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/

10 years ago by Sara Golemon — view source

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I would like to propose to use list standards@lists.php.net (which has
been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think?

Big +1 on this. btw, a lot of folks on the HHVM team have been having
trouble getting subcribed to lists.php.net, if I sent you a set of
email addresses and lists, could you help out with some bulk
subscriptions (including standards@)?

-Sara

10 years ago by Stas Malyshev — view source

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Hi!

Big +1 on this. btw, a lot of folks on the HHVM team have been having
trouble getting subcribed to lists.php.net, if I sent you a set of
email addresses and lists, could you help out with some bulk
subscriptions (including standards@)?

I guess that would be folks on systems@php.net, I personally have no
access there.

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Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect
SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/

10 years ago by Hannes Magnusson — view source

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What sort of problems are they having? Not getting the challenge mail?

Even if I'd bulk register some people to this list, they would not be
able to send an email to until they've replied to the 'mail
challenge'..
Please look in their spam folder...

-Hannes

I would like to propose to use list standards@lists.php.net (which has
been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think?

Big +1 on this. btw, a lot of folks on the HHVM team have been having
trouble getting subcribed to lists.php.net, if I sent you a set of
email addresses and lists, could you help out with some bulk
subscriptions (including standards@)?

-Sara

10 years ago by Sara Golemon — view source

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On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Hannes Magnusson
hannes.magnusson@gmail.com wrote:

What sort of problems are they having? Not getting the challenge mail?

Even if I'd bulk register some people to this list, they would not be
able to send an email to until they've replied to the 'mail
challenge'..
Please look in their spam folder...

tbh, I'm not clear, having been subscribed to internals@ since it was
called php-dev@ I didn't put any effort into reproing it till today.

Speaking of, I did just successfully subscribe myself to standards@
(without any trouble) using the direct ezmlm interface. Maybe they
were using the web form on php.net? I dunno. Maybe it's just PEBKAC

-Sara

10 years ago by Sebastian Bergmann — view source

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Speaking of, I did just successfully subscribe myself to standards@
(without any trouble) using the direct ezmlm interface. Maybe they
were using the web form on php.net? I dunno. Maybe it's just PEBKAC

I just tried to subscribe to standards@ using the web interface and got
"We were unable to subscribe you due to some technical problems.
Please try again later."

10 years ago by Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa — view source

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Speaking of, I did just successfully subscribe myself to standards@
(without any trouble) using the direct ezmlm interface. Maybe they
were using the web form on php.net? I dunno. Maybe it's just PEBKAC

I just tried to subscribe to standards@ using the web interface and got
"We were unable to subscribe you due to some technical problems.
Please try again later."
It worked for me with standards-subscribe@lists.php.net.

--
Ivan Enderlin
Developer of Hoa
http://hoa-project.net/

PhD. at DISC/Femto-ST (Vesontio) and INRIA (Cassis)
http://disc.univ-fcomte.fr/ and http://www.inria.fr/

Member of HTML and WebApps Working Group of W3C
http://w3.org/

10 years ago by Chris Wright — view source

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Speaking of, I did just successfully subscribe myself to standards@
(without any trouble) using the direct ezmlm interface. Maybe they
were using the web form on php.net? I dunno. Maybe it's just PEBKAC

I just tried to subscribe to standards@ using the web interface and got
"We were unable to subscribe you due to some technical problems.
Please try again later."

I also got this message, however retrying immediately worked (and the
page loaded a lot faster). Maybe there is a socket timeout that needs
increasing? In this case, errors would be being logged, except that
someone did @this:
https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/master/include/posttohost.inc#L23

shakes fist

10 years ago by Ferenc Kovacs — view source

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Speaking of, I did just successfully subscribe myself to standards@
(without any trouble) using the direct ezmlm interface. Maybe they
were using the web form on php.net? I dunno. Maybe it's just PEBKAC

I just tried to subscribe to standards@ using the web interface and got
"We were unable to subscribe you due to some technical problems.
Please try again later."

I also got this message, however retrying immediately worked (and the
page loaded a lot faster). Maybe there is a socket timeout that needs
increasing? In this case, errors would be being logged, except that
someone did @this:
https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/master/include/posttohost.inc#L23

shakes fist

--

whoops, that was me, I've removed the supression just now.

--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu

10 years ago by Larry Garfield — view source

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Hi!

I would like to propose to use list stadards@lists.php.net (which has
been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think?

Of course it's standards@lists.php.net.

standards@lists.php.net was the original home of what eventually morphed
into the PHP-FIG. I think repurposing it for a PHP standard-spec
discussion group, especially if it's a collaboration of different PHP
engine implementers, would be a nice homage.

--Larry Garfield

10 years ago by Andrea Faulds — view source

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Hi!

I would like to propose to use list stadards@lists.php.net (which has
been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think?

Did you typo both your subject and body, or is the list actually called stadards, not standards? :)

--
Andrea Faulds
http://ajf.me/

10 years ago by Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa — view source

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Hi!

I would like to propose to use list stadards@lists.php.net (which has
been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think?
Did you typo both your subject and body, or is the list actually called stadards, not standards? :)
Damn copy/paste :-p.
+1 for me, good idea.

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Ivan Enderlin
Developer of Hoa
http://hoa-project.net/

PhD. student at DISC/Femto-ST (Vesontio) and INRIA (Cassis)
http://disc.univ-fcomte.fr/ and http://www.inria.fr/

Member of HTML and WebApps Working Group of W3C
http://w3.org/

10 years ago by Ferenc Kovacs — view source

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I almost suggested to use that list, but I think that the php spec would
worth having a dedicated list, without any previous bias/connotation.
It could also be surprising for the current subscribers to see a
resurrected mailing list with a "slightly" different target audience and
topic.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@sugarcrm.com
wrote:

Hi!

I would like to propose to use list stadards@lists.php.net (which has
been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think?

--
Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect
SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/

--

--
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu

10 years ago by Sara Golemon — view source

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I would like to propose to use list standards@lists.php.net (which has
been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think?

I'mma go ahead and make a command decision and just move discussion
there. (if it works out poorly, we can always move the topic back).

To that end: http://news.php.net/php.standards/104

-Sara

10 years ago by James Gilliland — view source

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Might I then suggest someone update http://php.net/mailing-lists.php?

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@sugarcrm.com
wrote:

I would like to propose to use list standards@lists.php.net (which has
been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think?

I'mma go ahead and make a command decision and just move discussion
there. (if it works out poorly, we can always move the topic back).

To that end: http://news.php.net/php.standards/104

-Sara

10 years ago by Sara Golemon — view source

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Might I then suggest someone update http://php.net/mailing-lists.php?

Yeah, I can push that. Though fwiw, emailing
subscribe-standards@lists.php.net seems to be more reliable than the
webform.

-Sara

10 years ago by James Gilliland — view source

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Could be. Other then the webform though, I think that's the only place we
document where things are happening.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM, James Gilliland neclimdul@gmail.com
wrote:

Might I then suggest someone update http://php.net/mailing-lists.php?

Yeah, I can push that. Though fwiw, emailing
subscribe-standards@lists.php.net seems to be more reliable than the
webform.

-Sara

10 years ago by Zeev Suraski — view source

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standards-subscribe@lists.php.net I believe, not the other way around

-----Original Message-----
From: php@golemon.com [mailto:php@golemon.com] On Behalf Of Sara
Golemon
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:54 PM
To: James Gilliland
Cc: PHP Internals
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Using stadards@lists.php.net for spec work

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM, James Gilliland neclimdul@gmail.com
wrote:

Might I then suggest someone update http://php.net/mailing-lists.php?

Yeah, I can push that. Though fwiw, emailing
subscribe-standards@lists.php.net
seems to be more reliable than the webform.

-Sara

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10 years ago by Sara Golemon — view source

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standards-subscribe@lists.php.net I believe, not the other way around

You are correct, sir. Thank you. And bjori beat me to it on adding
it to web-php: https://github.com/php/web-php/commit/136f8f13631420e50055b0f8bd4737fbadc1f982