Help with the snaps site

18 years ago by John Mertic — view source — reply

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Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html
(Warning - none of the links on the page go to anywhere)

My thinking is keep one set of builds on the main page and then
provide a link to previous builds, which we can give an ftp-style
listing or make the nicer looking page like above. This keeps the
snaps page cleaner since I would think most people would be looking
for the latest snap and not necessarily one of the previous 4 ones.

Let me know if my approach and design sounds reasonable.

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but the frog dies in the
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18 years ago by Jan Lehnardt — view source — reply

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Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html
(Warning - none of the links on the page go to anywhere)
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Let me know if my approach and design sounds reasonable.

it does: +1.

Jan

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18 years ago by Hannes Magnusson — view source — reply

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Hi John

Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html

Looks really good.
One suggestion: how about removing the left column ("next snapshot")
and add that info under each "built on"?

-Hannes

18 years ago by Edin Kadribasic — view source — reply

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Hannes Magnusson wrote:

Hi John

Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html

Looks really good.

Yes, it looks excellent.

One suggestion: how about removing the left column ("next snapshot")
and add that info under each "built on"?

I think we should put it as is since that information is vital for
people without a windows system to see if their fixes build on win32.

I'll put this up over the weekend.

Thanks John!

Edin

18 years ago by John Mertic — view source — reply

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Thanks,

Let me know if you need any help getting it up and running.

Also, for the "Previous Build" links, do we want to just dump them to
a directory or have a nicely formated page similar to this one. Either
way shouldn't be a problem.

John

Hannes Magnusson wrote:

Hi John

Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html

Looks really good.

Yes, it looks excellent.

One suggestion: how about removing the left column ("next snapshot")
and add that info under each "built on"?

I think we should put it as is since that information is vital for
people without a windows system to see if their fixes build on win32.

I'll put this up over the weekend.

Thanks John!

Edin

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John Mertic "Explaining a joke
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but the frog dies in the
process."

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18 years ago by Tijnema — view source — reply

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Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html
(Warning - none of the links on the page go to anywhere)

<snip> > > Let me know if my approach and design sounds reasonable.

I like the design under Firefox, but I guess you didn't check it out
with IE7? It gives me a lot of scrollbars in the page ...

Tijnema

18 years ago by John Mertic — view source — reply

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Fixed that; IE7 and overflow: auto where the culprits, so I added
special CSS just for that browser.

Thanks for catching that!

I like the design under Firefox, but I guess you didn't check it out
with IE7? It gives me a lot of scrollbars in the page ...

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John Mertic "Explaining a joke
is like dissecting a frog: you
jmertic@gmail.com understand it better,
but the frog dies in the
process."

                  -Mark Twain

18 years ago by Tijnema — view source — reply

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Fixed that; IE7 and overflow: auto where the culprits, so I added
special CSS just for that browser.

Thanks for catching that!

Yes, looks cool now, i'd say +1 :)

I like the design under Firefox, but I guess you didn't check it out
with IE7? It gives me a lot of scrollbars in the page ...

--

John Mertic "Explaining a joke
is like dissecting a frog: you
jmertic@gmail.com understand it better,
but the frog dies in the
process."
                 -Mark Twain

18 years ago by Zoe Slattery — view source — reply

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John Mertic wrote:

Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html
(Warning - none of the links on the page go to anywhere)

+1 - looks better and makes getting the latest snap easier

18 years ago by Jan Reininghaus — view source — reply

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John Mertic wrote:

Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html
(Warning - none of the links on the page go to anywhere)

My thinking is keep one set of builds on the main page and then
provide a link to previous builds, which we can give an ftp-style
listing or make the nicer looking page like above. This keeps the
snaps page cleaner since I would think most people would be looking
for the latest snap and not necessarily one of the previous 4 ones.

Let me know if my approach and design sounds reasonable.

Although I have actually nothing to say here, I like the approach as
well. It seems to be very clear to me.
I have already said that I dislike the "Next Snapshot" column on
snaps.php.net, but you have made the column far less complex. :)

18 years ago by John Mertic — view source — reply

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Thanks for the compliments and the suggestion.

I've made the whole section underneath each branch in the light blue
highlighted color. I agree it makes it much easier to read now.

John

John Mertic wrote:

Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html
(Warning - none of the links on the page go to anywhere)

My thinking is keep one set of builds on the main page and then
provide a link to previous builds, which we can give an ftp-style
listing or make the nicer looking page like above. This keeps the
snaps page cleaner since I would think most people would be looking
for the latest snap and not necessarily one of the previous 4 ones.

Let me know if my approach and design sounds reasonable.

Looks really nice.

I like the next snap column on the LH side.

My only improvement would be to change the horizontal background shading
so it encompasses the heading of each section as well as the content,
and/or encompasses the "Previous Builds" line.

When I look into the middle section of the page my eyes read from the top
of each color band, e.g. I see

Previous Builds
5.2.x-dev
Source Distribution.

Chris

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Email: Christopher.Jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630
Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/f8jad

--

John Mertic "Explaining a joke
is like dissecting a frog: you
jmertic@gmail.com understand it better,
but the frog dies in the
process."

                  -Mark Twain

18 years ago by John Mertic — view source — reply

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Hi Chris,

I can see where you are coming from. I put together another version of
this that entirely uses the PHP CSS templates:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index-phptemplate.html

It looks and feels more like the main PHP.net site. I also went ahead
and changed the branch names to PHP 4, PHP 5, and PHP 6, instead of
4.4.x-dev, etc.

I'm curious now which one everyone prefers, the previous one (
http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html ) or the one
listed above.

John

On reflection, now I've had lunch, the intent/risks of the snapshots
isn't so clear. Maybe a simple change such as making the headings
"4.4 Development" spelling out "Development" (no need for the ".x"
anyway), or maybe a brief paragraph description is needed.

Also adding a link to http://www.php.net/downloads somewhere might
help the googler who lands on the snaps page but wants something
stable to use.

A problem even with the current snaps page is that the PHP logo doesn't
link to php.net. And I'd prefer the snap page had the stand php.net header
links.

Chris

John Mertic wrote:

Thanks for the compliments and the suggestion.

I've made the whole section underneath each branch in the light blue
highlighted color. I agree it makes it much easier to read now.

John

John Mertic wrote:

Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html
(Warning - none of the links on the page go to anywhere)

My thinking is keep one set of builds on the main page and then
provide a link to previous builds, which we can give an ftp-style
listing or make the nicer looking page like above. This keeps the
snaps page cleaner since I would think most people would be looking
for the latest snap and not necessarily one of the previous 4 ones.

Let me know if my approach and design sounds reasonable.

Looks really nice.

I like the next snap column on the LH side.

My only improvement would be to change the horizontal background shading
so it encompasses the heading of each section as well as the content,
and/or encompasses the "Previous Builds" line.

When I look into the middle section of the page my eyes read from the top
of each color band, e.g. I see

Previous Builds
5.2.x-dev
Source Distribution.

Chris

--
Christopher Jones, Oracle
Email: Christopher.Jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630
Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/f8jad

--
Christopher Jones, Oracle
Email: Christopher.Jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630
Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/f8jad

--

John Mertic "Explaining a joke
is like dissecting a frog: you
jmertic@gmail.com understand it better,
but the frog dies in the
process."

                  -Mark Twain

18 years ago by M. Sokolewicz — view source — reply

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Hi John,

I actually kind of liked the branch names instead of just "PHP4/PHP5".
"PHP5" doesn't mean squat to me, I'd prefer to see the branch names as
they barely take any more space and yet provide a lot more info.

John Mertic wrote:

Hi Chris,

I can see where you are coming from. I put together another version of
this that entirely uses the PHP CSS templates:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index-phptemplate.html

It looks and feels more like the main PHP.net site. I also went ahead
and changed the branch names to PHP 4, PHP 5, and PHP 6, instead of
4.4.x-dev, etc.

I'm curious now which one everyone prefers, the previous one (
http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html ) or the one
listed above.

John

On reflection, now I've had lunch, the intent/risks of the snapshots
isn't so clear. Maybe a simple change such as making the headings
"4.4 Development" spelling out "Development" (no need for the ".x"
anyway), or maybe a brief paragraph description is needed.

Also adding a link to http://www.php.net/downloads somewhere might
help the googler who lands on the snaps page but wants something
stable to use.

A problem even with the current snaps page is that the PHP logo doesn't
link to php.net. And I'd prefer the snap page had the stand php.net
header
links.

Chris

John Mertic wrote:

Thanks for the compliments and the suggestion.

I've made the whole section underneath each branch in the light blue
highlighted color. I agree it makes it much easier to read now.

John

John Mertic wrote:

Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html
(Warning - none of the links on the page go to anywhere)

My thinking is keep one set of builds on the main page and then
provide a link to previous builds, which we can give an ftp-style
listing or make the nicer looking page like above. This keeps the
snaps page cleaner since I would think most people would be looking
for the latest snap and not necessarily one of the previous 4 ones.

Let me know if my approach and design sounds reasonable.

Looks really nice.

I like the next snap column on the LH side.

My only improvement would be to change the horizontal background
shading
so it encompasses the heading of each section as well as the content,
and/or encompasses the "Previous Builds" line.

When I look into the middle section of the page my eyes read from
the top
of each color band, e.g. I see

Previous Builds
5.2.x-dev
Source Distribution.

Chris

--
Christopher Jones, Oracle
Email: Christopher.Jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630
Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/f8jad

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Christopher Jones, Oracle
Email: Christopher.Jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630
Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/f8jad

18 years ago by Michael Wallner — view source — reply

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John Mertic wrote:

Hi Chris,

I can see where you are coming from. I put together another version of
this that entirely uses the PHP CSS templates:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index-phptemplate.html

I like it, but how about using "BZip2 Tarball" and "Zip Package" etc
instead of "php5 (...)"?

--
Michael

18 years ago by Raghubansh — view source — reply

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Hi Chris,

I can see where you are coming from. I put together another version of
this that entirely uses the PHP CSS templates:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index-phptemplate.html

New one looks better, I would prefer this.

It looks and feels more like the main PHP.net site. I also went ahead

and changed the branch names to PHP 4, PHP 5, and PHP 6, instead of
4.4.x-dev, etc.

Would like to see the branch name 4.4.x-dev , 5.5.x-dev, etc. and not
PHP4, PHP5.

I'm curious now which one everyone prefers, the previous one (

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html ) or the one
listed above.

John

On reflection, now I've had lunch, the intent/risks of the snapshots
isn't so clear. Maybe a simple change such as making the headings
"4.4 Development" spelling out "Development" (no need for the ".x"
anyway), or maybe a brief paragraph description is needed.

Also adding a link to http://www.php.net/downloads somewhere might
help the googler who lands on the snaps page but wants something
stable to use.

A problem even with the current snaps page is that the PHP logo doesn't
link to php.net. And I'd prefer the snap page had the stand php.netheader
links.

Chris

John Mertic wrote:

Thanks for the compliments and the suggestion.

I've made the whole section underneath each branch in the light blue
highlighted color. I agree it makes it much easier to read now.

John

John Mertic wrote:

Below is a link to my take on the redesign:

http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index.html
(Warning - none of the links on the page go to anywhere)

My thinking is keep one set of builds on the main page and then
provide a link to previous builds, which we can give an ftp-style
listing or make the nicer looking page like above. This keeps the
snaps page cleaner since I would think most people would be looking
for the latest snap and not necessarily one of the previous 4 ones.

Let me know if my approach and design sounds reasonable.

Looks really nice.

I like the next snap column on the LH side.

My only improvement would be to change the horizontal background
shading
so it encompasses the heading of each section as well as the content,
and/or encompasses the "Previous Builds" line.

When I look into the middle section of the page my eyes read from the
top
of each color band, e.g. I see

Previous Builds
5.2.x-dev
Source Distribution.

Chris

--
Christopher Jones, Oracle
Email: Christopher.Jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630
Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/f8jad

--
Christopher Jones, Oracle
Email: Christopher.Jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630
Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/f8jad

--

John Mertic "Explaining a joke
is like dissecting a frog: you
jmertic@gmail.com understand it better,
but the frog dies in the
process."
                  -Mark Twain
--

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with Regards,
Raghubansh

18 years ago by John Mertic — view source — reply

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Would like to see the branch name 4.4.x-dev , 5.5.x-dev, etc. and not
PHP4, PHP5.

Changed the titles back.

Any other comments on this version
(http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index-phptemplate.html),
or should we go ahead and put it up there?

--

John Mertic "Explaining a joke
is like dissecting a frog: you
jmertic@gmail.com understand it better,
but the frog dies in the
process."

                  -Mark Twain

18 years ago by Edin Kadribasic — view source — reply

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Way ahead of you :)

http://snaps.php.net/newsnaps.php

Edin

John Mertic wrote:

Would like to see the branch name 4.4.x-dev , 5.5.x-dev, etc. and not
PHP4, PHP5.

Changed the titles back.

Any other comments on this version
(http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index-phptemplate.html),
or should we go ahead and put it up there?

18 years ago by Edin Kadribasic — view source — reply

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The new snaps site is up and running.

I want to thank John Mertic for the nice work the design and everyone
for coming with helpful suggestions.

Edin

P.S. this file is in the cvs as systems/snaps_index.php so any
modification suggestions would be best sent as patches to this file.

Edin Kadribasic wrote:

Way ahead of you :)

http://snaps.php.net/newsnaps.php

Edin

John Mertic wrote:

Would like to see the branch name 4.4.x-dev , 5.5.x-dev, etc. and not
PHP4, PHP5.
Changed the titles back.

Any other comments on this version
(http://files.edin.dk/php/installer/snaps-html/index-phptemplate.html),
or should we go ahead and put it up there?