Hi,
would it be possible to simply have PHP5 delayed until 7th July?
We could add GIF write support within GD lib, because on the 7th of July
the patent is world wide lifted.
Stefan
(ps: maybe this even attracts more people to PHP5 ;)
Hello Stefan,
imo a very good idea.
Add support at the 7th (no other changes), a few gif tests on the 8th
and then release.
best regards
marcus
Sunday, June 20, 2004, 12:41:51 PM, you wrote:
Hi,
would it be possible to simply have PHP5 delayed until 7th July?
We could add GIF write support within GD lib, because on the 7th of July
the patent is world wide lifted.
Stefan
(ps: maybe this even attracts more people to PHP5 ;)
--
Best regards,
Marcus mailto:helly@php.net
Hi,
would it be possible to simply have PHP5 delayed until 7th July?
We could add GIF write support within GD lib, because on the 7th of July
the patent is world wide lifted.
I don't want GIF support in ;-)
Derick
would it be possible to simply have PHP5 delayed until 7th July?
We could add GIF write support within GD lib, because on the 7th of July
the patent is world wide lifted.I don't want GIF support in ;-)
While I appreciate your reasons for not wanting GIF and agree with them on
an academic level, I don't think it makes sense from our user's perspective
to hold back support for something for which the base code already exists
and requires only a small amount of administrative front-end work.
As to release timing, I'd feel uncomfortable "adding" a new bundled libgd
the day of/day before release. I'd sooner release 5.0.0 on the 4th, add GD
on the 8th, and RC 5.0.1 once or twice. It's technically an exception to
feature freeze within a minor version, but it's an exception within the
bundled library only, not within any of the PHP wrapper code.
In any event, users have the option of using the GD library directly from
boutell.com at any time from the moment the author releases it. The PHP
release doesn't need to bundle it for it to work.
-Sara
would it be possible to simply have PHP5 delayed until 7th July?
We could add GIF write support within GD lib, because on the 7th of July
the patent is world wide lifted.I don't want GIF support in ;-)
While I appreciate your reasons for not wanting GIF and agree with them on
an academic level, I don't think it makes sense from our user's perspective
to hold back support for something for which the base code already exists
and requires only a small amount of administrative front-end work.
Although I don't like GIF, that was not really the reason for saying it.
I meant that delaying PHP 5 because of GIF is stupid.
As to release timing, I'd feel uncomfortable "adding" a new bundled libgd
the day of/day before release. I'd sooner release 5.0.0 on the 4th, add GD
on the 8th, and RC 5.0.1 once or twice. It's technically an exception to
feature freeze within a minor version, but it's an exception within the
bundled library only, not within any of the PHP wrapper code.
Yeah, it's prolly ok to put it in 5.0.1, as long as that's QA-ed
and handled the 'normal' way, like Ilia is doing for 4.3.x. Don't screw
up or change our release things for the silly GIF stuff.
In any event, users have the option of using the GD library directly from
boutell.com at any time from the moment the author releases it. The PHP
release doesn't need to bundle it for it to work.
But the GD lib from Boutell misses a lot of our fixes though.
Derick
I don't want GIF support in ;-)
While I appreciate your reasons for not wanting GIF and agree with them
on
an academic level, I don't think it makes sense from our user's
perspective
to hold back support for something for which the base code already
exists
and requires only a small amount of administrative front-end work.Although I don't like GIF, that was not really the reason for saying it.
I meant that delaying PHP 5 because of GIF is stupid.
Ah, my misinterpretation then, sound like we agree on not doing GIF in 5.0.0
and keeping the release date as is.
Yeah, it's prolly ok to put it in 5.0.1, as long as that's QA-ed
and handled the 'normal' way, like Ilia is doing for 4.3.x. Don't screw
up or change our release things for the silly GIF stuff.
Ah, I wasn't aware the PHP_4_3 branch would get an updated libgd. That
sounds like a good thing though, it'll reduce the pressure to upgrade to
PHP5, and as a parallel discussion noted: migration is not a trivial act to
be taken lightly.
In any event, users have the option of using the GD library directly
from
boutell.com at any time from the moment the author releases it. The PHP
release doesn't need to bundle it for it to work.But the GD lib from Boutell misses a lot of our fixes though.
True 'nuff... I wonder, does it make sense to release a "PHPized" version of
libgd alone so that people who (for their own internal reasons) can continue
to use older versions of PHP without upgrading, but can replace their GD
extension with a GIF enabled one?
It seems a little silly since it makes more sense (from my perspective) to
simply upgrade to 4.3.8 (I'm assuming this is the version that'll have the
new libgd), but those that use distro packages tend to ride several versions
behind because of their distros vetting process. Hopefully those making the
packages have enough sense to extract the PHPized libgd from CVS or a recent
release, but giving them a little help in that respect couldn't hurt. Then
again, who are we to be maintaining/releasing someone else's lib?
-Sara
Yeah, it's prolly ok to put it in 5.0.1, as long as that's QA-ed
and handled the 'normal' way, like Ilia is doing for 4.3.x. Don't screw
up or change our release things for the silly GIF stuff.Ah, I wasn't aware the PHP_4_3 branch would get an updated libgd. That
sounds like a good thing though, it'll reduce the pressure to upgrade to
PHP5, and as a parallel discussion noted: migration is not a trivial act to
be taken lightly.
That's not what I meant, but I do agree :)
regards,
Derick
At 11:00 20/06/2004, Sara Golemon wrote:
As to release timing, I'd feel uncomfortable "adding" a new bundled libgd
the day of/day before release. I'd sooner release 5.0.0 on the 4th, add GD
on the 8th, and RC 5.0.1 once or twice.
+1 on that.
Zeev