# Using stadards@lists.php.net for spec work - Thread: https://externals.io/message/76024 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/76024 - Started by Stas Malyshev on 2014-07-24T18:24:13+00:00 - Messages: 20 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #76024 — Stas Malyshev — 2014-07-24T18:24:13+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76024 Hi! I would like to propose to use list stadards@lists.php.net (which has been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ --- ## #76025 — Stas Malyshev — 2014-07-24T18:25:27+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76025 · In reply to: #76024 Hi! > I would like to propose to use list stadards@lists.php.net (which has > been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think? Of course it's standards@lists.php.net. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ --- ## #76026 — Andrea Faulds — 2014-07-24T18:25:44+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76026 · In reply to: #76024 > Hi! > > I would like to propose to use list stadards@lists.php.net (which has > been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think? Did you typo both your subject and body, or is the list actually called stadards, not standards? :) -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/ --- ## #76029 — Sara Golemon — 2014-07-24T18:30:24+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76029 · In reply to: #76025 > I would like to propose to use list standards@lists.php.net (which has > been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think? > Big +1 on this. btw, a lot of folks on the HHVM team have been having trouble getting subcribed to lists.php.net, if I sent you a set of email addresses and lists, could you help out with some bulk subscriptions (including standards@)? -Sara --- ## #76030 — Stas Malyshev — 2014-07-24T18:32:58+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76030 · In reply to: #76029 Hi! > Big +1 on this. btw, a lot of folks on the HHVM team have been having > trouble getting subcribed to lists.php.net, if I sent you a set of > email addresses and lists, could you help out with some bulk > subscriptions (including standards@)? I guess that would be folks on systems@php.net, I personally have no access there. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ --- ## #76031 — Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa — 2014-07-24T18:46:06+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76031 · In reply to: #76026 > > > > […] > Did you typo both your subject and body, or is the list actually called stadards, not standards? :) Damn copy/paste :-p. +1 for me, good idea. -- Ivan Enderlin Developer of Hoa http://hoa-project.net/ PhD. student at DISC/Femto-ST (Vesontio) and INRIA (Cassis) http://disc.univ-fcomte.fr/ and http://www.inria.fr/ Member of HTML and WebApps Working Group of W3C http://w3.org/ --- ## #76032 — Hannes Magnusson — 2014-07-24T19:01:45+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76032 · In reply to: #76029 What sort of problems are they having? Not getting the challenge mail? Even if I'd bulk register some people to this list, they would not be able to send an email to until they've replied to the 'mail challenge'.. Please look in their spam folder... -Hannes > > > […] > Big +1 on this. btw, a lot of folks on the HHVM team have been having > trouble getting subcribed to lists.php.net, if I sent you a set of > email addresses and lists, could you help out with some bulk > subscriptions (including standards@)? > > -Sara --- ## #76035 — Sara Golemon — 2014-07-24T19:13:45+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76035 · In reply to: #76032 On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > What sort of problems are they having? Not getting the challenge mail? > > Even if I'd bulk register some people to this list, they would not be > able to send an email to until they've replied to the 'mail > challenge'.. > Please look in their spam folder... > tbh, I'm not clear, having been subscribed to internals@ since it was called php-dev@ I didn't put any effort into reproing it till today. Speaking of, I did just successfully subscribe myself to standards@ (without any trouble) using the direct ezmlm interface. Maybe they were using the web form on php.net? I dunno. Maybe it's just PEBKAC -Sara --- ## #76041 — Larry Garfield — 2014-07-24T19:56:15+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76041 · In reply to: #76025 > Hi! > > > […] > > Of course it's standards@lists.php.net. standards@lists.php.net was the original home of what eventually morphed into the PHP-FIG. I think repurposing it for a PHP standard-spec discussion group, especially if it's a collaboration of different PHP engine implementers, would be a nice homage. --Larry Garfield --- ## #76051 — Ferenc Kovacs — 2014-07-24T20:22:05+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76051 · In reply to: #76024 I almost suggested to use that list, but I think that the php spec would worth having a dedicated list, without any previous bias/connotation. It could also be surprising for the current subscribers to see a resurrected mailing list with a "slightly" different target audience and topic. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > I would like to propose to use list stadards@lists.php.net (which has > been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think? > > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect > SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ > > -- > > > > -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --- ## #76061 — Sara Golemon — 2014-07-24T20:38:48+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76061 · In reply to: #76024 > I would like to propose to use list standards@lists.php.net (which has > been dormant since 2009) for PHP spec work. What do you think? > I'mma go ahead and make a command decision and just move discussion there. (if it works out poorly, we can always move the topic back). To that end: http://news.php.net/php.standards/104 -Sara --- ## #76067 — James Gilliland — 2014-07-24T20:51:55+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76067 · In reply to: #76061 Might I then suggest someone update http://php.net/mailing-lists.php? > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Stas Malyshev > wrote: > > […] > I'mma go ahead and make a command decision and just move discussion > there. (if it works out poorly, we can always move the topic back). > > To that end: http://news.php.net/php.standards/104 > > -Sara --- ## #76068 — Sara Golemon — 2014-07-24T20:54:14+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76068 · In reply to: #76067 > Might I then suggest someone update http://php.net/mailing-lists.php? > Yeah, I can push that. Though fwiw, emailing subscribe-standards@lists.php.net seems to be more reliable than the webform. -Sara --- ## #76070 — James Gilliland — 2014-07-24T20:56:34+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76070 · In reply to: #76068 Could be. Other then the webform though, I think that's the only place we document where things are happening. > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM, James Gilliland > wrote: > > […] > Yeah, I can push that. Though fwiw, emailing > subscribe-standards@lists.php.net seems to be more reliable than the > webform. > > -Sara --- ## #76071 — Zeev Suraski — 2014-07-24T20:57:05+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76071 · In reply to: #76068 standards-subscribe@lists.php.net I believe, not the other way around > -----Original Message----- > From: php@golemon.com [mailto:php@golemon.com] On Behalf Of Sara > Golemon > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:54 PM > To: James Gilliland > Cc: PHP Internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Using stadards@lists.php.net for spec work > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:51 PM, James Gilliland > wrote: > > […] > Yeah, I can push that. Though fwiw, emailing > subscribe-standards@lists.php.net > seems to be more reliable than the webform. > > -Sara > > -- > To unsubscribe, > visit: > http://www.php.net/unsub.php --- ## #76072 — Sara Golemon — 2014-07-24T21:06:18+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76072 · In reply to: #76071 > standards-subscribe@lists.php.net I believe, not the other way around > You are correct, sir. Thank you. And bjori beat me to it on adding it to web-php: https://github.com/php/web-php/commit/136f8f13631420e50055b0f8bd4737fbadc1f982 --- ## #76101 — Sebastian Bergmann — 2014-07-25T08:52:59+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76101 · In reply to: #76035 > Speaking of, I did just successfully subscribe myself to standards@ > (without any trouble) using the direct ezmlm interface. Maybe they > were using the web form on php.net? I dunno. Maybe it's just PEBKAC I just tried to subscribe to standards@ using the web interface and got "We were unable to subscribe you due to some technical problems. Please try again later." --- ## #76102 — Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa — 2014-07-25T09:16:13+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76102 · In reply to: #76101 > > > […] > > I just tried to subscribe to standards@ using the web interface and got > "We were unable to subscribe you due to some technical problems. > Please try again later." It worked for me with standards-subscribe@lists.php.net. -- Ivan Enderlin Developer of Hoa http://hoa-project.net/ PhD. at DISC/Femto-ST (Vesontio) and INRIA (Cassis) http://disc.univ-fcomte.fr/ and http://www.inria.fr/ Member of HTML and WebApps Working Group of W3C http://w3.org/ --- ## #76105 — Chris Wright — 2014-07-25T09:48:45+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76105 · In reply to: #76101 > > > […] > > > I just tried to subscribe to standards@ using the web interface and got > "We were unable to subscribe you due to some technical problems. > Please try again later." I also got this message, however retrying immediately worked (and the page loaded a lot faster). Maybe there is a socket timeout that needs increasing? In this case, errors *would* be being logged, except that someone did @this: https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/master/include/posttohost.inc#L23 *shakes fist* --- ## #76108 — Ferenc Kovacs — 2014-07-25T10:07:43+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/76024#76108 · In reply to: #76105 > > > […] > > I also got this message, however retrying immediately worked (and the > page loaded a lot faster). Maybe there is a socket timeout that needs > increasing? In this case, errors *would* be being logged, except that > someone did @this: > https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/master/include/posttohost.inc#L23 > > *shakes fist* > > -- > > > > whoops, that was me, I've removed the supression just now. -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu