# RFCs: length of voting process. - Thread: https://externals.io/message/72219 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/72219 - Started by Levi Morrison on 2014-02-04T21:47:02+00:00 - Messages: 6 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #72219 — Levi Morrison — 2014-02-04T21:47:02+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/72219#72219 I propose that we increase the minimum duration for an RFC to be in the voting phase from one week to something longer. The rationale is quite simple: - One week is often not enough time for me to review my current thoughts and vote. - Sometimes when RFCs go to vote it is the first time I get to read about it. Most of us don't work on PHP full-time so I can't be the only one in this situation. - During holiday seasons people often request a longer window anyway. As for picking a new period: I propose 14 days (two weeks) because it guarantees two weekends. What voting window would you like to see? Also, do we need an RFC for proposals like this? The wiki is unclear on how we deal with changes to the RFC process. --- ## #72224 — Pierre Joye — 2014-02-04T23:01:06+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/72219#72224 · In reply to: #72219 Hi, > > I propose that we increase the minimum duration for an RFC to be in the > voting phase from one week to something longer. The rationale is quite > simple: > - One week is often not enough time for me to review my current thoughts > and vote. > - Sometimes when RFCs go to vote it is the first time I get to read about > it. Most of us don't work on PHP full-time so I can't be the only one in > this situation. > - During holiday seasons people often request a longer window anyway. > > As for picking a new period: I propose 14 days (two weeks) because it > guarantees two weekends. > > What voting window would you like to see? I think a week is fine given that two weeks for discussion are required. nd it uses to be longer. > Also, do we need an RFC for proposals like this? Yes --- ## #72227 — Andrea Faulds — 2014-02-05T00:48:15+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/72219#72227 · In reply to: #72219 > I propose that we increase the minimum duration for an RFC to be in the > voting phase from one week to something longer. The rationale is quite > simple: > - One week is often not enough time for me to review my current thoughts > and vote. > - Sometimes when RFCs go to vote it is the first time I get to read about > it. Most of us don't work on PHP full-time so I can't be the only one in > this situation. > - During holiday seasons people often request a longer window anyway. > > As for picking a new period: I propose 14 days (two weeks) because it > guarantees two weekends. > > What voting window would you like to see? > > Also, do we need an RFC for proposals like this? The wiki is unclear on how > we deal with changes to the RFC process. I don't find any problem with a week being the voting period. You already have, at the very least, 2 weeks prior to any vote to discuss the RFc. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/ --- ## #72232 — Levi Morrison — 2014-02-05T01:58:53+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/72219#72232 · In reply to: #72227 > > I don't find any problem with a week being the voting period. You already > have, at the very least, 2 weeks prior to any vote to discuss the RFC. > Except its fairly often that people change the RFC within this window so when it goes to vote you have to review stuff. And if you are busy that week then... well, you miss the vote. --- ## #72234 — Yasuo Ohgaki — 2014-02-05T02:15:50+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/72219#72234 · In reply to: #72232 Hi Levi, On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Levi Morrison wrote: > > […] > > Except its fairly often that people change the RFC within this window so > when it goes to vote you have to review stuff. And if you are busy that > week then... well, you miss the vote. This is because people tends to read RFC when voting. To address this issue, close vote, discuss, reopen vote, is the way to go. Reopened vote should be a week or more. Minimum 2 weeks seems too much to me. Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net --- ## #72238 — Pierre Joye — 2014-02-05T06:10:41+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/72219#72238 · In reply to: #72234 > > Hi Levi, > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Levi Morrison wrote: > > > […] already > > […] so > > […] > > > This is because people tends to read RFC when voting. > To address this issue, close vote, discuss, reopen vote, is the > way to go. Reopened vote should be a week or more. Minimum > 2 weeks seems too much to me. But then it is debatable, depending on the change, including the implementation. I think it is fair to have 2 weeks again to discuss and test the changes. Cheers, Pierre