# Integrate HHVM into PHP (Was: Re:  Request for comments - new PHP feature: return typing)

- Thread: https://externals.io/message/68088
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- Started by Patrick ALLAERT on 2013-07-10T08:58:28+00:00
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## #68088 — Patrick ALLAERT — 2013-07-10T08:58:28+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/68088#68088

Hello Florin,

2013/7/10 Florin Patan <florinpatan@gmail.com>:
> Since you brought up the discussion, would you think it would make
> more sense to actually start and integrate HHVM into PHP rather that
> patching it up?
> Or better yet, rewrite it with a HH VM in mind?
> I know and fully understand it's a gigantic task but at some point in
> a software lifecycle there's only so much patching up you can do
> before you can't patch it anymore.
> Thanks.

Not that this is not interesting, but this is deviating the discussion
so much than the original thread that it is worth having it as it's
own thread.
Please, remember to change the subject if you start an off-topic
discussion, it makes discussions easier to follow.

Thanks,
Patrick

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## #68095 — Florin Patan — 2013-07-11T19:45:27+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/68088#68095 · In reply to: #68088

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Patrick ALLAERT
<patrickallaert@php.net> wrote:
> Hello Florin,
>
> 2013/7/10 Florin Patan <florinpatan@gmail.com>:
> > […]
>
> Not that this is not interesting, but this is deviating the discussion
> so much than the original thread that it is worth having it as it's
> own thread.
> Please, remember to change the subject if you start an off-topic
> discussion, it makes discussions easier to follow.
>
> Thanks,
> Patrick

Hi,


Thank you for moving this into a separate thread.

I'll look into HHVM in the following days/weeks but I think it's clear
that HHVM brings some nice concepts both to the language and to the
way PHP works, albeit compile it and so on.
Also reading articles like this:
http://ocramius.github.io/blog/accessing-private-php-class-members-without-reflection/
makes me very sad that this code is possible in PHP in order to
overcome speed issues of the language.
Could this be a topic of interest for more people, especially the core people?


Best regards,
Florin
----
Florin Patan
https://github.com/dlsniper
http://www.linkedin.com/in/florinpatan

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## #68101 — Sara Golemon — 2013-07-11T20:40:45+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/68088#68101 · In reply to: #68095

If you run into issues (yes, our build system still sucks a bit) poke me in
IRC freenode/#hhvm (or ptarjan or any other @ in that channel).

And just to jump in front of what I detect in your comment "albiet compile
it".  Repeat: HHVM is not a code translator anymore.  Hasn't been for
awhile now.  The basic functionality of HHVM is just like PHP.  Put a .php
file in your webroot, browse it, profit.</broken-record>

-Sara


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Florin Patan <florinpatan@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Patrick ALLAERT
> <patrickallaert@php.net> wrote:
> > […]
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Thank you for moving this into a separate thread.
>
> I'll look into HHVM in the following days/weeks but I think it's clear
> that HHVM brings some nice concepts both to the language and to the
> way PHP works, albeit compile it and so on.
> Also reading articles like this:
>
> http://ocramius.github.io/blog/accessing-private-php-class-members-without-reflection/
> makes me very sad that this code is possible in PHP in order to
> overcome speed issues of the language.
> Could this be a topic of interest for more people, especially the core
> people?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Florin
> ----
> Florin Patan
> https://github.com/dlsniper
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/florinpatan