# release frequency? - Thread: https://externals.io/message/64465 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/64465 - Started by Stas Malyshev on 2013-01-02T06:26:41+00:00 - Messages: 6 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #64465 — Stas Malyshev — 2013-01-02T06:26:41+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/64465#64465 Hi! I see that we do not have a lot of changes in 5.4 since last release. So I wonder if it may make sense to reduce release frequency now that we got less bugfixes coming in, say from monthly to 1.5 or 2 months between release. What do you think? Just to be clear, I have no problem (excepting unforeseen circumstances, of course) still doing monthly, just not sure it's worth it if we'd have less than 10 bugfixes per release... -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227 --- ## #64467 — Alexey Zakhlestin — 2013-01-02T09:27:03+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/64465#64467 · In reply to: #64465 > I see that we do not have a lot of changes in 5.4 since last release. So > I wonder if it may make sense to reduce release frequency now that we > got less bugfixes coming in, say from monthly to 1.5 or 2 months between > release. What do you think? > > Just to be clear, I have no problem (excepting unforeseen circumstances, > of course) still doing monthly, just not sure it's worth it if we'd have > less than 10 bugfixes per release… if there's at least one REAL bug fix in release it's worth it -- Alexey Zakhlestin https://github.com/indeyets --- ## #64472 — johannes@schlueters.de — 2013-01-02T15:33:33+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/64465#64472 · In reply to: #64467 Alexey Zakhlestin wrote: >if there's at least one REAL bug fix in release it's worth it So, what is a "real" bugfix? Most things are responses on bug reports by users. Form them it is real. On the other hand most things we fix these days (especially when looking at 5.3) are really minor things which mostly can easily be worked-around and barely hit anybody (if bugs are reported >5 years after that code was initially released it's barely hit) As said in a recent thread for 5.3 I plan to reduce the release amount after February, I don't mind delaying the upcoming releases a bit, I haven't checked commits and bugs which came in during the holiday season, yet. johannes --- ## #64474 — Alexey Zakhlestin — 2013-01-02T15:47:32+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/64465#64474 · In reply to: #64472 > > > Alexey Zakhlestin wrote: > > […] > > So, what is a "real" bugfix? Most things are responses on bug reports by users. Form them it is real. String typos are not "real". Segfault fixes and inconsistent behaviour fixes are "real". -- Alexey Zakhlestin https://github.com/indeyets --- ## #64629 — Pierre Joye — 2013-01-07T07:34:23+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/64465#64629 · In reply to: #64465 hi Stas, > Hi! > > I see that we do not have a lot of changes in 5.4 since last release. So > I wonder if it may make sense to reduce release frequency now that we > got less bugfixes coming in, say from monthly to 1.5 or 2 months between > release. What do you think? > > Just to be clear, I have no problem (excepting unforeseen circumstances, > of course) still doing monthly, just not sure it's worth it if we'd have > less than 10 bugfixes per release... I would go from a case by case basis. I received really good feedback about our more frequent releases. Any bug is important to some of our users, however we could prioritize them and see if the available fixes are important enough to do a release, if not, we do it next month. But then no delay anymore, two months delay between two releases the max :) Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --- ## #64630 — Peter Lind — 2013-01-07T07:37:26+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/64465#64630 · In reply to: #64629 As an "outsider" I would say consistency is king. Knowing that I can rely on when new versions come out is much more important than whether they contain 9 or 11 bug fixes. So, pick a schedule that works and stick to it. Just my thoughts. -- WWW: plphp.dk / plind.dk CV: careers.stackoverflow.com/peterlind LinkedIn: plind Twitter: kafe15