# Prototype PHP interpreter using the PyPy toolchain - Hippy VM - Thread: https://externals.io/message/61282 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/61282 - Started by marius adrian popa on 2012-07-16T10:04:12+00:00 - Messages: 5 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #61282 — marius adrian popa — 2012-07-16T10:04:12+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/61282#61282 http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2012/07/hello-everyone.html and the comments http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4241921 http://en.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/wipf2/prototype_php_interpreter_using_the_pypy/ --- ## #61283 — Ferenc Kovacs — 2012-07-16T10:19:33+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/61282#61283 · In reply to: #61282 On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:04 PM, marius adrian popa wrote: > http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2012/07/hello-everyone.html > > and the comments > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4241921 > > > http://en.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/wipf2/prototype_php_interpreter_using_the_pypy/ > Hi, interesting, but am I the only one that we could also boost the performance of the Zend Engine, if we would throw out everything, except the "PHP 1.0" features: functions, arrays, ints, floats and strings not that we should do that, I just think that the numbers are somehow misleading. -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --- ## #61284 — Laruence — 2012-07-16T10:21:02+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/61282#61284 · In reply to: #61283 > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:04 PM, marius adrian popa wrote: > > > […] > > Hi, > > interesting, but am I the only one that we could also boost the performance > of the Zend Engine, if we would throw out everything, except the "PHP 1.0" > features: functions, arrays, ints, floats and strings > not that we should do that, I just think that the numbers are somehow > misleading. +1 thanks > > -- > Ferenc Kovács > @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu -- Laruence Xinchen Hui http://www.laruence.com/ --- ## #61285 — Andrew Faulds — 2012-07-16T10:23:41+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/61282#61285 · In reply to: #61283 To help us in this, there's the PHP Native Interface RFC. It might be difficult to improve the Zend engine until extensions aren't so tightly coupled with the Zend API. > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:04 PM, marius adrian popa wrote: > > > […] > > Hi, > > interesting, but am I the only one that we could also boost the performance > of the Zend Engine, if we would throw out everything, except the "PHP 1.0" > features: functions, arrays, ints, floats and strings > not that we should do that, I just think that the numbers are somehow > misleading. > > -- > Ferenc Kovács > @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu -- Andrew Faulds (AJF) http://ajf.me/ --- ## #61322 — Stas Malyshev — 2012-07-16T16:40:04+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/61282#61322 · In reply to: #61283 Hi! > interesting, but am I the only one that we could also boost the performance > of the Zend Engine, if we would throw out everything, except the "PHP 1.0" > features: functions, arrays, ints, floats and strings > not that we should do that, I just think that the numbers are somehow > misleading. They also removed refcounting from the language - meaning, as I understand from this: The project's biggest deviation from the PHP specification is probably that GC is no longer reference counting. That means that the object finalizer, when implemented, will not be called directly at the moment of object death, but at some later point. that they do not destroy objects at all currently. So these benchmarks don't mean much. But the idea is interesting, if they ever take it to actually working implementation. It's the kind of things that first 90% take 90% effort, and last 10% take another 90% effort. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227