# Subdomain Set Up

- Thread: https://externals.io/message/60857
- Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/60857
- Started by Paul Dragoonis on 2012-06-16T12:17:04+00:00
- Messages: 5
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## #60857 — Paul Dragoonis — 2012-06-16T12:17:04+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/60857#60857

Hi Internals,

I attempted to get (and failed) some attention on my request that I
posted to php-webmaster mailing list, so I'm escalating it here:

http://news.php.net/php.webmaster/13696

Thanks,
Paul Dragoonis.

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## #60858 — Gustavo Lopes — 2012-06-16T12:34:11+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/60857#60858 · In reply to: #60857

On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:17:04 +0200, Paul Dragoonis <dragoonis@gmail.com>  
wrote:

> I attempted to get (and failed) some attention on my request that I
> posted to php-webmaster mailing list, so I'm escalating it here:
>
> http://news.php.net/php.webmaster/13696
>

I agree that this request should not be granted. I don't see why we should  
be in the business of, among other things, deciding whether code should be  
indented or otherwise formatted.

-- 
Gustavo Lopes

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## #60861 — Paul Dragoonis — 2012-06-16T13:45:41+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/60857#60861 · In reply to: #60858

Okay,

Thanks for the reply.


> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:17:04 +0200, Paul Dragoonis <dragoonis@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > […]
>
> I agree that this request should not be granted. I don't see why we should
> be in the business of, among other things, deciding whether code should be
> indented or otherwise formatted.
>
> --
> Gustavo Lopes

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## #60863 — johannes@schlueters.de — 2012-06-16T17:28:17+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/60857#60863 · In reply to: #60858

> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:17:04 +0200, Paul Dragoonis <dragoonis@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> 
> > […]
> 
> I agree that this request should not be granted. I don't see why we should  
> be in the business of, among other things, deciding whether code should be  
> indented or otherwise formatted.

I think it is a good thing to push many things to userland. The PHP Core
distribution should be limited to things we want everywhere and/or which
have technical benefit from being implemented in C.

For pushing more stuff to userland some common guidelines make sense.


But looking at that specific group and request doesn't seem good to me. 

      * Historically that group decided that they don't like "the
        PHP.net way" but wanted their controlled group, I think they've
        opened up, though.
      * This request is a bit strange. It reads (maybe partly due to my
        non-native language) like "Make us look like an official php
        thing without following other php.net processes etc." The
        initial mail doesn't even say why a php.net address is needed.
        They "need" a page, while saying that github can already provide
        that. Why is php.net involved? Usually I would expect a
        discussion whether php.net should publish standards first.

Sorry if this is overly critical.

johannes

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## #60864 — Ronald Chmara — 2012-06-16T18:28:41+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/60857#60864 · In reply to: #60863

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Johannes Schlüter
<johannes@schlueters.de> wrote:
> 
> > […]
> I think it is a good thing to push many things to userland. The PHP Core
> distribution should be limited to things we want everywhere and/or which
> have technical benefit from being implemented in C.
> For pushing more stuff to userland some common guidelines make sense.
> But looking at that specific group and request doesn't seem good to me.

fig.php.net
phpfig.php.net
php-standards.php.net
php-conventions.php.net
frameworks.php.net
structure.php.net
security.php.net
coding.php.net

Where does it stop? And why does it even need a php.net subdomain? Is
this just an SEO thing?

phpfig.org, on their own (or a similar domain), should work.

-Ronabop