# RFC: Removing PHP tags - Thread: https://externals.io/message/59281 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/59281 - Started by Moriyoshi Koizumi on 2012-04-01T01:59:48+00:00 - Messages: 12 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #59281 — Moriyoshi Koizumi — 2012-04-01T01:59:48+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59281 Hi, I wrote a RFC that proposes removal of PHP tags. There is actually strong public demand for it, and I also think it is necessary to leverage PHP to a genuine, modern scripting language. http://wiki.php.net/rfc/nophptags Regards, Moriyoshi --- ## #59282 — Klaus Silveira — 2012-04-01T02:24:12+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59282 · In reply to: #59281 Removing PHP's native feature of being able to be easily embedded inside HTML and other markup languages is absolutely retrograde. Of of the biggest points in favor of PHP is that i'm able to easily do this: Or this: Without having to implement any slow-as-hell template language. It works right out of the box. Using MVC as an argument for tag removal is a clear disrespect to the language itself. --- ## #59283 — Rasmus Lerdorf — 2012-04-01T02:29:53+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59283 · In reply to: #59281 > Hi, > > I wrote a RFC that proposes removal of PHP tags. There is actually > strong public demand for it, and I also think it is necessary to > leverage PHP to a genuine, modern scripting language. > > http://wiki.php.net/rfc/nophptags I really doubt this will find much support, and note that PHP came well before ASP so that part of the RFC is factually inaccurate. -Rasmus --- ## #59284 — Klaus Silveira — 2012-04-01T02:31:20+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59284 · In reply to: #59282 What many people fail to see is that PHP is it's own templating language. It might be ugly for people used to other template languages, but it works perfectly and right out of the box. On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Klaus Silveira wrote: > Removing PHP's native feature of being able to be easily embedded inside > HTML and other markup languages is absolutely retrograde. Of of the biggest > points in favor of PHP is that i'm able to easily do this: > > > > Or this: > > > > > > > > > Without having to implement any slow-as-hell template language. It works > right out of the box. Using MVC as an argument for tag removal is a clear > disrespect to the language itself. --- ## #59285 — Laruence — 2012-04-01T02:38:14+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59285 · In reply to: #59284 Hi: sorry for say that, but the only benifit I can see, is save 5+ characters... thanks > What many people fail to see is that PHP is it's own templating language. > It might be ugly for people used to other template languages, but it works > perfectly and right out of the box. > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Klaus Silveira wrote: > > > […] -- Laruence  Xinchen Hui http://www.laruence.com/ --- ## #59286 — Moriyoshi Koizumi — 2012-04-01T02:45:09+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59286 · In reply to: #59283 Ok, I'll try to fix that part. Thanks for the correction. Moriyoshi > > > > […] > > I really doubt this will find much support, and note that PHP came well before ASP so that part of the RFC is factually inaccurate. > > -Rasmus --- ## #59287 — Rasmus Lerdorf — 2012-04-01T03:02:52+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59287 · In reply to: #59286 > Ok, I'll try to fix that part. Thanks for the correction. > > […] No problem. Keeping the April 1st RFCs factually accurate is a top priority around here. -Rasmus --- ## #59288 — Brian Moon — 2012-04-01T03:23:44+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59288 · In reply to: #59287 Well played Moriyoshi. Well played. Brian. http://brian.moonspot.net > > > > […] > > No problem. Keeping the April 1st RFCs factually accurate is a top priority around here. > > -Rasmus --- ## #59289 — Reindl Harald — 2012-04-01T03:27:09+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59289 · In reply to: #59281 Am 01.04.2012 03:59, schrieb Moriyoshi Koizumi: > Hi, > > I wrote a RFC that proposes removal of PHP tags. There is actually > strong public demand for it, and I also think it is necessary to > leverage PHP to a genuine, modern scripting language. > > http://wiki.php.net/rfc/nophptags nice 1st april joke........ --- ## #59290 — Xinchen Hui — 2012-04-01T03:38:48+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59290 · In reply to: #59287 -_#....... Nice play ,Moriyoshi sama! Sent from my iPhone 在 2012-4-1，11:03，Rasmus Lerdorf 写道： > > > > […] > > No problem. Keeping the April 1st RFCs factually accurate is a top priority around here. > > -Rasmus --- ## #59291 — Kris Craig — 2012-04-01T04:27:56+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59291 · In reply to: #59290 > -_#....... > Nice play ,Moriyoshi sama! > > Sent from my iPhone > > 在 2012-4-1，11:03，Rasmus Lerdorf 写道： > > > […] > priority around here. > > […] > > -- > > > > Damnit! I just got April Fools punked for the first time since I was a kid! Now how am I supposed to look down my nose at everyone else?! Thanks a lot, Moriyoshi. Though does it count if it's still March 31st over here? ;) --Kris --- ## #59302 — Daniel Macedo — 2012-04-01T14:53:40+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/59281#59302 · In reply to: #59291 > Though does it count if it's still March 31st over here?  ;) > > --Kris Nope, you've been caught! (=