# DateTime fixes and 5.4 release plan - Thread: https://externals.io/message/57152 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/57152 - Started by Daniel Convissor on 2011-12-29T22:51:14+00:00 - Messages: 7 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #57152 — Daniel Convissor — 2011-12-29T22:51:14+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/57152#57152 Hi Folks: David mentioned the following in the git migration email: > Expect the php-src migration in 14-21 days after 5.4 final. Can 5.4 final please be held off until the DateTime fixes for transitions (such as Standard / Daylight time) are fixed? https://wiki.php.net/rfc/datetime_and_daylight_saving_time Perpetuating broken time handling in PHP is an unpleasant prospect. And once the problems are fixed, it'd be nice to say they were "resolved in 5.3.x", rather than "resolved in 5.3.x and 5.4.x." Derick just mentioned on IRC that he _may_, but more likely won't, be able to get this done in the 2 - 3 week time frame David mentioned. Thanks, --Dan -- T H E A N A L Y S I S A N D S O L U T I O N S C O M P A N Y data intensive web and database programming http://www.AnalysisAndSolutions.com/ 4015 7th Ave #4, Brooklyn NY 11232 v: 718-854-0335 f: 718-854-0409 --- ## #57153 — Stas Malyshev — 2011-12-29T23:58:24+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/57152#57153 · In reply to: #57152 Hi! > Can 5.4 final please be held off until the DateTime fixes for > transitions (such as Standard / Daylight time) are fixed? > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/datetime_and_daylight_saving_time If somebody's willing to commit to fixing them in some reasonable timeframe (like 2 weeks from now), then yes. Otherwise, I'm not sure it is worth waiting for something that's not going to happen. I understand these XFAILs are embarrassing but we can't wait forever and I think it's better to have 5.4 with xfails (which are relatively corner cases by now as I understand) than no 5.4 at all. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227 --- ## #57154 — Pierre Joye — 2011-12-30T07:30:58+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/57152#57154 · In reply to: #57153 hi! > Hi! > > > > […] > > > If somebody's willing to commit to fixing them in some reasonable timeframe > (like 2 weeks from now), then yes. Otherwise, I'm not sure it is worth > waiting for something that's not going to happen. I understand these XFAILs > are embarrassing but we can't wait forever and I think it's better to have > 5.4 with xfails (which are relatively corner cases by now as I understand) > than no 5.4 at all. We have 1 week ~. Next week is RC5 and then I hope we can go for a golden release, or better said, final. But golden release as in no commit done between RC5 and final. If not, we can do a last RC6, bringing final for the end of January, which is not too bad either :) Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --- ## #57159 — Stas Malyshev — 2011-12-30T22:20:24+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/57152#57159 · In reply to: #57154 Hi! > We have 1 week ~. > > Next week is RC5 and then I hope we can go for a golden release, or > better said, final. But golden release as in no commit done between > RC5 and final. > > If not, we can do a last RC6, bringing final for the end of January, > which is not too bad either :) That's what I am saying - if we can do it before RC6 date - that is, before Jan 19th - it's fine and we can fit it in the schedule. If it doesn't happen till then - we will have to go without it. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227 --- ## #67573 — Ferenc Kovacs — 2013-05-28T06:31:46+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/57152#67573 · In reply to: #57152 On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Daniel Convissor < danielc@analysisandsolutions.com> wrote: > Hi Folks: > > David mentioned the following in the git migration email: > > > […] > > Can 5.4 final please be held off until the DateTime fixes for > transitions (such as Standard / Daylight time) are fixed? > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/datetime_and_daylight_saving_time > > Perpetuating broken time handling in PHP is an unpleasant prospect. And > once the problems are fixed, it'd be nice to say they were "resolved in > 5.3.x", rather than "resolved in 5.3.x and 5.4.x." > > Derick just mentioned on IRC that he _may_, but more likely won't, be > able to get this done in the 2 - 3 week time frame David mentioned. > > Thanks, > > --Dan > > -- > T H E A N A L Y S I S A N D S O L U T I O N S C O M P A N Y > data intensive web and database programming > http://www.AnalysisAndSolutions.com/ > 4015 7th Ave #4, Brooklyn NY 11232 v: 718-854-0335 f: 718-854-0409 > > -- > > > > it seems that it will miss even 5.5 final :( -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --- ## #67584 — Derick Rethans — 2013-05-28T10:05:21+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/57152#67584 · In reply to: #67573 Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Daniel Convissor < > danielc@analysisandsolutions.com> wrote: > > > […] > And > > […] > in > > […] > be > > […] > it seems that it will miss even 5.5 final :( I've worked quite a bit on this and I'm close to finishing. Really need just one more transatlantic flight :-) I'll push my changes to a branch. I think the RFC gets something wrong though. I'll check and report back Derick --- ## #67586 — Ferenc Kovacs — 2013-05-28T12:21:11+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/57152#67586 · In reply to: #67584 > > […] > > I've worked quite a bit on this and I'm close to finishing. Really need > just one more transatlantic flight :-) I'll push my changes to a branch. > I think the RFC gets something wrong though. I'll check and report back > > Derick > \o/ -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu