# 5.4 beta - Thread: https://externals.io/message/55425 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/55425 - Started by Stas Malyshev on 2011-09-14T05:46:45+00:00 - Messages: 17 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #55425 — Stas Malyshev — 2011-09-14T05:46:45+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55425 Hi! It looks like the situation with the tests significantly improved (again, thanks a lot for everybody who took part!), so I plan to package 5.4 beta tomorrow. If you have any fixes that must be in the beta (please test! ;), please do it in the next 12 hours or after the beta is tagged. Thanks, -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227 --- ## #55426 — Laruence — 2011-09-14T06:06:08+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55426 · In reply to: #55425 Hi: SessionHandler is not stable now, and remain some bugs need to be fixed(one open bug #55690, and test failed) and arpad can not be connected now, so you may need to double check with him when you start packaging. thanks 2011/9/14 Stas Malyshev : > Hi! > > It looks like the situation with the tests significantly improved (again, > thanks a lot for everybody who took part!), so I plan to package 5.4 beta > tomorrow. If you have any fixes that must be in the beta (please test! ;), > please do it in the next 12 hours or after the beta is tagged. > > Thanks, > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect > SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ > (408)454-6900 ext. 227 > > -- > > > > -- Laruence  Xinchen Hui http://www.laruence.com/ --- ## #55428 — Lester Caine — 2011-09-14T06:41:23+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55428 · In reply to: #55425 Stas Malyshev wrote: > If you have any fixes that must be in the beta Some of my fixes are still awaiting review :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php --- ## #55432 — Derick Rethans — 2011-09-14T07:19:16+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55432 · In reply to: #55426 > SessionHandler is not stable now, and remain some bugs need to be > fixed(one open bug #55690, and test failed) It's a beta release. Bugs may occur (that's why we have betas!). Derick -- http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug --- ## #55433 — Pierre Joye — 2011-09-14T07:21:22+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55433 · In reply to: #55425 hi! I would rather say try to avoid committing huge changes before the beta1 is out. The current tree builds and runs more or less good (there are still some bugs around but it is acceptable for beta). It would be bad to have last minute breakages only because of one or two commits. Cheers, > Hi! > > It looks like the situation with the tests significantly improved (again, > thanks a lot for everybody who took part!), so I plan to package 5.4 beta > tomorrow. If you have any fixes that must be in the beta (please test! ;), > please do it in the next 12 hours or after the beta is tagged. > > Thanks, > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect > SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ > (408)454-6900 ext. 227 > > -- > > > > -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --- ## #55434 — Laruence — 2011-09-14T07:23:48+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55434 · In reply to: #55432 Hi: Sure, I just said need to be double check. :P thanks 2011/9/14 Derick Rethans : > > > > […] > > It's a beta release. Bugs may occur (that's why we have betas!). > > Derick > > -- > http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org > Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php > twitter: @derickr and @xdebug > -- Laruence  Xinchen Hui http://www.laruence.com/ --- ## #55435 — Ferenc Kovacs — 2011-09-14T08:22:44+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55435 · In reply to: #55432 > > > > […] > > It's a beta release. Bugs may occur (that's why we have betas!). it's true, but it's neither a snapshot. I would expect a beta to be more stable than a random snapshot, so it would be useful, if the we wouldn't add untested/broken modifications just before the beta release. I'm not directly referring to the sessionhandler or #55690 particular, but the tendency that everybody wants to push his changes just days before the beta1. they can be added with the next beta, so no hurry, I would appreciate fewer but more stable features than one with more but unstable. -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --- ## #55436 — Hannes Magnusson — 2011-09-14T08:25:19+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55436 · In reply to: #55425 > Hi! > > It looks like the situation with the tests significantly improved (again, > thanks a lot for everybody who took part!), so I plan to package 5.4 beta > tomorrow. If you have any fixes that must be in the beta (please test! ;), > please do it in the next 12 hours or after the beta is tagged. > Could you look at the intl tests? I have similar failures the the gcov, plus couple of more I sent you the other day. -Hannes --- ## #55437 — Pierre Joye — 2011-09-14T08:28:15+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55437 · In reply to: #55436 please post errors&co to the list, ccing the maintainers too. It is then easier to be in sync. About intl, it seems that many tests are ICU version specific (regarding unicode and formatting rules correctness). Maybe we need to add a couple of skipif and use the latest ICU version only as base (where the unicode&co issues are fixed). On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > > > […] > > > Could you look at the intl tests? > I have similar failures the the gcov, plus couple of more I sent you > the other day. > > -Hannes > > -- > > > > -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --- ## #55442 — Hannes Magnusson — 2011-09-14T12:41:49+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55442 · In reply to: #55437 > please post errors&co to the list, ccing the maintainers too. It is > then easier to be in sync. I really do not like it when you assume everyone else are idiots. I ofcourse already sent it, in fact, it was in a reply about intl tests failure thread that you yourself created. -Hannes --- ## #55457 — Stas Malyshev — 2011-09-15T19:08:23+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55457 · In reply to: #55436 Hi! > Could you look at the intl tests? > I have similar failures the the gcov, plus couple of more I sent you > the other day. Yes, I will. From casual look it seems like they are caused by variation between ICU versions, I'll look into how to make tests better - though for some tests it may be hard to do... -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227 --- ## #55459 — Pierre Joye — 2011-09-15T21:39:14+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55459 · In reply to: #55457 > Hi! > > > > […] > > Yes, I will. From casual look it seems like they are caused by variation > between ICU versions, I'll look into how to make tests better - though for > some tests it may be hard to do... We do need tests per version. The EXPECTF- becomes more and more necessary :) Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --- ## #55460 — Stas Malyshev — 2011-09-15T21:42:49+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55460 · In reply to: #55459 Hi! > We do need tests per version. The EXPECTF- > becomes more and more necessary :) The problem is data may vary by CLDR version, etc. and keeping pace with all variants on all platforms, etc. will be a nightmare. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227 --- ## #55461 — Pierre Joye — 2011-09-15T21:44:45+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55461 · In reply to: #55460 > The problem is data may vary by CLDR version, etc. and keeping pace with all > variants on all platforms, etc. will be a nightmare. To have a couple of versions, say x.y, x.y+1 sounds reasonable and possible. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --- ## #55468 — Hannes Magnusson — 2011-09-16T08:10:43+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55468 · In reply to: #55461 > > > > […] > > To have a couple of versions, say x.y, x.y+1 sounds reasonable and possible. Its not our responsibility to test the 3rd party library data, thats for intl to test. Just like its not our responsibility to test flex or OS network error messages. We need to test that we understand the data and work with it properly. My test failure seem to be both caused by data difference, but also float precision and timezone issues, and thats within our domain to ensure is working fine. -Hannes --- ## #55471 — Pierre Joye — 2011-09-16T08:48:34+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55471 · In reply to: #55468 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > > > […] > > Its not our responsibility to test the 3rd party library data, thats > for intl to test. It is not about validating the correctness of ICU itself but our binding or APIs usage. And to do that we have to deal with the ICU results. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --- ## #55472 — Lester Caine — 2011-09-16T09:14:48+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/55425#55472 · In reply to: #55468 Hannes Magnusson wrote: > My test failure seem to be both caused by data difference, but also > float precision and timezone issues, and thats within our domain to > ensure is working fine. The remaining interbase/firebird errors are similar niggles ... but I'm not sure just how one would know that the error was actually the same data just viewed slightly differently? Float with the E or fully expanded is one which pops up often? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php