# PHP 5 RC1 - Thread: https://externals.io/message/5420 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/5420 - Started by Uwe Schindler on 2003-11-13T08:26:37+00:00 - Messages: 7 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #5420 — Uwe Schindler — 2003-11-13T08:26:37+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/5420#5420 Yes the SAPI codes are changed (php5_execute was my example from NSAPI SAPI). But the filenames in the win32 distrib are still php4_xxx.dll (see snapshot compile log). At 21:49 12.11.2003, you wrote: >Marcus Boerger wrote: > > […] > >Hello Marcus, > >Well, that's what I though. IIRC, the last time I tried PHP5 under >Windows, the Apache SAPI code was changed. I was uncertain what Uwe meant >about the php5_execute. Was he refering to the LoadModule directive under >Apache? > >Oliver >-- >GB/E/IT d+ s+:+ a-- C++$ UL++++$ P++++ L+++$ E- W++$ N- ?o ?K w--(---) !O >M+$ V- PS+ PE- Y PGP t++ 5-- X+@ R- tv++ b++(+++) DI++++ D+ G++ e+>++ h(*) >r y+(?) ----- Uwe Schindler thetaphi@php.net - http://www.php.net NSAPI SAPI developer Erlangen, Germany --- ## #5433 — Analysis & Solutions — 2003-11-13T17:01:30+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/5420#5433 · In reply to: #5420 Hi Folks: > But the filenames in the win32 distrib are still php4_xxx.dll (see > snapshot compile log). This was one thing that concerned me about the new version. It would be _really_ nice if the PHP 5 DLL's would be given different names so PHP 4 and PHP 5 can be installed at the same time. This doesn't seem possible if the DLL's have the same names because the OS will use whichever DLL is found first in the Path, rather than the DLL's appropriate for the version in question. The ability to run two versions at once makes compatibility testing way easier for developers making software that uses PHP. For example, during the transition from PHP 3 to PHP 4, I had .htm extensions mapped to PHP 3 and .html extensions mapped to PHP 5. Both pages would include the same PHP classes. This way I could pop back and forth between versions without a problem. Thanks for your consideration, --Dan -- FREE scripts that make web and database programming easier http://www.analysisandsolutions.com/software/ T H E A N A L Y S I S A N D S O L U T I O N S C O M P A N Y 4015 7th Ave #4AJ, Brooklyn NY v: 718-854-0335 f: 718-854-0409 --- ## #5440 — Jani Taskinen — 2003-11-13T18:42:31+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/5420#5440 · In reply to: #5433 >The ability to run two versions at once makes compatibility testing way >easier for developers making software that uses PHP. For example, during >the transition from PHP 3 to PHP 4, I had .htm extensions mapped to PHP 3 >and .html extensions mapped to PHP 5. Both pages would include the same >PHP classes. This way I could pop back and forth between versions without >a problem. Last time I checked, you can't run PHP 4 & 5 as DSO on same apache on *nix, at least. (it crashes) I made the necessary changes for that to be possible in the config side.. The --enable-versioning doesn't seem to work at all with PHP 5 for some reason. I don't know if this is any different with windows. But for it to be even possible, you need to patch the stuff lot more than just rename the dlls. --Jani --- ## #5449 — Cesare D'Amico — 2003-11-13T19:13:27+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/5420#5449 · In reply to: #5440 Alle 19:42, giovedì 13 novembre 2003, Jani Taskinen ha scritto: > I made the necessary changes for that to be possible in the config > side.. So you managed to run both php4 and php5 as DSO on the same instance of the server? How did you do it? (it's really interesting, and it's a pity that this doesn't work out of the box as it was in the php3/4 period) Ciao ce -- Cesare D'Amico - http://www.phpday.it "E` un'emergenza!!! Dovrei fare questo-e-questaltro ma non posso perche' la mia testa e` piena di segatura e criceti!!!" -- un utente [ http://www.soft-land.org/storie/ ] --- ## #5450 — Analysis & Solutions — 2003-11-13T19:21:17+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/5420#5450 · In reply to: #5440 Hi Jani: > Last time I checked, you can't run PHP 4 & 5 as DSO on same apache > on *nix, at least. (it crashes) My development setup is PHP as CGI on Apache 1.3.x / Windows 2000. Thanks, --Dan -- FREE scripts that make web and database programming easier http://www.analysisandsolutions.com/software/ T H E A N A L Y S I S A N D S O L U T I O N S C O M P A N Y 4015 7th Ave #4AJ, Brooklyn NY v: 718-854-0335 f: 718-854-0409 --- ## #5456 — Jani Taskinen — 2003-11-14T00:36:23+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/5420#5456 · In reply to: #5449 >Alle 19:42, giovedì 13 novembre 2003, Jani Taskinen ha scritto: > > […] > >So you managed to run both php4 and php5 as DSO on the same instance of >the server? How did you do it? (it's really interesting, and it's a >pity that this doesn't work out of the box as it was in the php3/4 >period) I thought I said "it crashed" ? (you didn't quote that part..:) And hopefully you also noticed that this was done within Linux, not windows. The basic problem running php4/php5 "same time" is that both php4/php5 use the same trigger for running the scripts on Apache. (application/x-httpd-php) So I just changed that in php5 sapi/apache/mod_php5.c to php5-script..and also used the handler method instead, like this: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php4 AddHandler php5-script .php5 (I think it was Ken who said that this is actually how it should have been since the beginning..using the AddHandler, not AddType.. :) Now, it worked fine as long as only either libphp4.so or libphp5.so was enabled. If both were enabled -> hangup/crash. I tried compiling both php4/5 with --enable-versioning, and also just the other but that didn't make any difference, it still hung/crashed. --Jani --- ## #5457 — Jani Taskinen — 2003-11-14T00:40:03+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/5420#5457 · In reply to: #5450 >Hi Jani: > > > > > […] > >My development setup is PHP as CGI on Apache 1.3.x / Windows 2000. Yes, CGI works of course. (when we get the php4ts.dll renamed :) That's the win32 only problem here, the DSO problem exists in both worlds. (see my other post about this issue a bit earlier) --Jani