# PHP patches

- Thread: https://externals.io/message/53356
- Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/53356
- Started by Robert Eisele on 2011-06-17T16:58:22+00:00
- Messages: 11
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## #53356 — Robert Eisele — 2011-06-17T16:58:22+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53356#53356

Hi,

my name is Robert Eisele. I'm new to this mailing list, but the one or the
other might have seen
something from me. I publish some open source stuff on my blog www.xarg.org,
where I recently
published "my PHP fork", too. To avoid license bashing, it's not a fork at
all and I don't want to
manage something like this for myself, but rather a collection of patches +
a proof of concept,
with some new things and ideas that could get implemented into the main tree
of PHP.

There were some constructive discussions on hackernews and my blog, too:

http://www.xarg.org/2011/06/php-hacking/
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2640756

I didn't follow any discussion on PHP internals. It seems, many people
understand and agree the
changes I made. I've also realized that some changes are still proposed and
maybe already implemented.

I'd like to contribute these changes to PHP and maybe work a little more on
the internals of PHP after that.

Anyway, could you please help in finding a consensus for the changes? Could
I get an wiki account to file all
new changes for a vote, too?

Thanks,

Robert Eisele

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## #53357 — Sebastian Bergmann — 2011-06-17T17:05:43+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53356#53357 · In reply to: #53356

> [...]

  Hello Robert,

  welcome to this list. I think it would be best if you propose the
  patches individually instead of proposing one big patch.

  Best,
Sebastian

-- 
Sebastian Bergmann                    Co-Founder and Principal Consultant
http://sebastian-bergmann.de/                           http://thePHP.cc/

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## #53359 — Robert Eisele — 2011-06-17T17:50:23+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53356#53359 · In reply to: #53357

Sebastian,

Thanks for your welcome. I thought I split up the patch into smaller
"per-problem" patches if I know what's new and what needs a patch for the
RFC. Sorry for the newbe questions, but should I add a patch for every
proposal; and if so, should I add it directly to the mail as attachement or
as external reference?

Should I add duplicates with a patch? I've seen, e.g., short array syntax
and binary numbers like in C# and python are already on the list of features
for PHP5.4. Is there a chance to get new features into PHP5.4 via vote? Many
comments of the sites, I've mentioned, indicate that they would be glad to
see some of these changes in 5.4 - myself included.

Robert

2011/6/17 Sebastian Bergmann <sebastian@php.net>

> 
>
> > […]
>
>  Hello Robert,
>
>  welcome to this list. I think it would be best if you propose the
>  patches individually instead of proposing one big patch.
>
>  Best,
> Sebastian
>
> --
> Sebastian Bergmann                    Co-Founder and Principal Consultant
> http://sebastian-bergmann.de/                           http://thePHP.cc/

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## #53360 — Stas Malyshev — 2011-06-17T18:14:41+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53356#53360 · In reply to: #53359

Hi!


> Should I add duplicates with a patch? I've seen, e.g., short array syntax
> and binary numbers like in C# and python are already on the list of features
> for PHP5.4. Is there a chance to get new features into PHP5.4 via vote? Many

The list of things that are considered for vote for 5.4 is listed here: 
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php54
I think as we plan to start the release cycle for 5.4 shortly and we 
have good bunch of new stuff there (or planned to be there) already, we 
shouldn't add to this list now unless it's a) something small and b) 
something that is recognized as really great idea and universally 
cheered and welcomed. But if you have something that you think fits, you 
are welcome to propose it on the list. Also, if you have something that 
you think is good, though not necessarily for 5.4, you're welcome to 
write and RFC and propose it too.
-- 
Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect
SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/
(408)454-6900 ext. 227

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## #53361 — Lester Caine — 2011-06-17T18:15:19+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53356#53361 · In reply to: #53357

Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
> > […]
>
>   Hello Robert,
>
>   welcome to this list. I think it would be best if you propose the
>   patches individually instead of proposing one big patch.

Especially with little nuggets like
> Deleted short open tags and <?php= is the new <?=

Don't have time to go through everything else there so there may be others that 
are not acceptable. $_REQUEST certainly has a place in my code base ...

-- 
Lester Caine - G8HFL
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Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php

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## #53403 — Robert Eisele — 2011-06-20T14:01:49+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53356#53403 · In reply to: #53361

Could I please get an wiki account? I've posted some stuff on the mailing
list, but I think it would be better to document all this stuff on a central
place, also with regard to get these things rated.

Robert

2011/6/17 Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>

> Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
>
> > […]
>
> Especially with little nuggets like
>
> > […]
>
> Don't have time to go through everything else there so there may be others
> that are not acceptable. $_REQUEST certainly has a place in my code base ...
>
> --
> Lester Caine - G8HFL
> -----------------------------
> Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=**contact<http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact>
> L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
> EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
> Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk//
> Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/**index.php<http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php

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## #53404 — Philip Olson — 2011-06-20T14:11:52+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53356#53404 · In reply to: #53403

> Could I please get an wiki account? I've posted some stuff on the mailing
> list, but I think it would be better to document all this stuff on a central
> place, also with regard to get these things rated.

Greetings Robert,

Considering the number of patches you've already shown, I think applying for an SVN account would work better as it'd give you full wiki access. We can worry about karma (commit rights) later.

 - http://php.net/svn-php

Regards,
Philip

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## #53436 — johannes@schlueters.de — 2011-06-20T17:23:26+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53356#53436 · In reply to: #53404

> 
> 
> > […]
> 
> Greetings Robert,
> 
> Considering the number of patches you've already shown, I think
> applying for an SVN account would work better as it'd give you full
> wiki access. We can worry about karma (commit rights) later.

He did and according to master.php.net the account was granted.

Robert, you should be able to login using your svn data to the wiki. :-)

johannes

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## #53442 — Robert Eisele — 2011-06-20T18:02:30+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53356#53442 · In reply to: #53436

Thanks, Johannes! :) It works.

2011/6/20 Johannes Schlüter <johannes@schlueters.de>

> 
> > […]
> mailing
> > […]
> central
> > […]
>
> He did and according to master.php.net the account was granted.
>
> Robert, you should be able to login using your svn data to the wiki. :-)
>
> johannes

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## #64464 — Ferenc Kovacs — 2012-12-31T04:44:11+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53356#64464 · In reply to: #53442

> Thanks, Johannes! :) It works.
>
> 2011/6/20 Johannes Schlüter <johannes@schlueters.de>
>
> > […]
>

hi,

it seems that he was never granted with any karma.
and he has an outstanding pecl account request for an input validation
extension.
Robert, do you still need that pecl account?


-- 
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu

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## #65010 — Ferenc Kovacs — 2013-01-17T17:08:37+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53356#65010 · In reply to: #64464

>
>
>
> 
>
> > […]
>
> hi,
>
> it seems that he was never granted with any karma.
> and he has an outstanding pecl account request for an input validation
> extension.
> Robert, do you still need that pecl account?
>
>
> --
> Ferenc Kovács
> @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
>


based on the lack of reply, I closed this account request for now.

-- 
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
