# Windows builds

- Thread: https://externals.io/message/53119
- Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/53119
- Started by Lester Caine on 2011-06-07T07:11:56+00:00
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## #53119 — Lester Caine — 2011-06-07T07:11:56+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53119#53119

I've cross posted to the windows list as this is a useful link!

http://www.anindya.com/

I don't feel quite so bad now about not being able to update my own builds, but 
a matching Additional Extensions section for the x86 builds would just finish 
the picture.

I'm just waiting for an OK to use the links in my own tutorials.

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## #53121 — Pierre Joye — 2011-06-07T09:39:08+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53119#53121 · In reply to: #53119

Lester,

We are now all aware of your constant bashing about our work for php
on windows, but could you please give us some rest and post this
wherever you like.

And no you won't get a official ok for this build or any other but
what we have already numerous times discuss. The same applies even
more for x64 versions.

Thanks for your understanding,


> I've cross posted to the windows list as this is a useful link!
>
> http://www.anindya.com/
>
> I don't feel quite so bad now about not being able to update my own builds,
> but a matching Additional Extensions section for the x86 builds would just
> finish the picture.
>
> I'm just waiting for an OK to use the links in my own tutorials.
>
> --
> Lester Caine - G8HFL
> -----------------------------
> Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact
> L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
> EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
> Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk//
> Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php
>
> --
> 
> 
>
>



-- 
Pierre

@pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org

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## #53131 — Lester Caine — 2011-06-07T12:36:43+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53119#53131 · In reply to: #53121

Pierre Joye wrote:
> Lester,
>
> We are now all aware of your constant bashing about our work for php
> on windows, but could you please give us some rest and post this
> wherever you like.
>
> And no you won't get a official ok for this build or any other but
> what we have already numerous times discuss. The same applies even
> more for x64 versions.

No problem ... I'm not asking ... but future Firebird builds will only work 
fully with 64 bit installations.

If anybody is interested 
http://enquirysolve.co.uk/wiki/index.php?page=Windows+Manual+-+FWAP+Installation 
replaces the one from 2006 which can't be used now to carry out a current 
working install.

Still very much work in progress - I've been working on this since last night - 
I need to sort out how to unzip the php files on Windows 7 - I said no to the 
RAR trial and did not ralise that it also kills zip handling! :(

-- 
Lester Caine - G8HFL
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L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
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Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk//
Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php

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## #53133 — Rasmus — 2011-06-07T12:52:34+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53119#53133 · In reply to: #53131

> Pierre Joye wrote:
> > […]
> 
> No problem ... I'm not asking ... but future Firebird builds will only
> work fully with 64 bit installations.

I can see it making sense to have a 64-bit build of a Database, but
clients that just talk to it over a socket using some socket protocol
shouldn't in any way be required to also be 64-bit. Same goes for your
Web server and PHP if you use the recommended FastCGI mechanism. Again
there is a nice separation between the two, so you don't need to match
build environments there either.

-Rasmus

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## #53161 — Philip Olson — 2011-06-07T16:15:22+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53119#53161 · In reply to: #53119

> I don't feel quite so bad now about not being able to update my own builds, but a matching Additional Extensions section for the x86 builds would just finish the picture.

If the PHP+Windows community developed a reliable system that built [most] all PECL extensions, then we would link to that within the PHP Manual. And if such a system was moved to a php.net server, then DLL download links could also be added to each individual pecl.php.net page.

Regards,
Philip

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## #53164 — Pierre Joye — 2011-06-07T17:11:21+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53119#53164 · In reply to: #53161

> > […]
>
> If the PHP+Windows community developed a reliable system that built [most] all PECL extensions, then we would link to that within the PHP Manual. And if such a system was moved to a php.net server, then DLL download links could also be added to each individual pecl.php.net page.

There is an easy way to build pecl extension and yes, pecl.php.net
will be the place to provide them as well. In the meantime I uploaded
them in the link I pasted earlier. But it happens that things can
happen when people actually do the work, and not only complain
endlessly in all possible channels.


Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

@pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org

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## #53169 — Philip Olson — 2011-06-07T17:53:29+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53119#53169 · In reply to: #53164

> 
> > […]
> 
> There is an easy way to build pecl extension and yes, pecl.php.net
> will be the place to provide them as well. In the meantime I uploaded
> them in the link I pasted earlier. But it happens that things can
> happen when people actually do the work, and not only complain
> endlessly in all possible channels.

And this is a call for someone or some people to do the work by raising a hand, posting an RFC, writing code, whatever it takes. But I think people assume either it's going to eventually happen, or that php.net is happy with the current situation. In other words, we need an official progress report and position on the manner. Thoughts?

Regards,
Philip

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## #53170 — Pierre Joye — 2011-06-07T18:10:34+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53119#53170 · In reply to: #53169

> And this is a call for someone or some people to do the work by raising a hand, posting an RFC, writing code, whatever it takes. But I think people assume either it's going to eventually happen, or that php.net is happy with the current situation. In other words, we need an official progress report and position on the manner. Thoughts?

There is an official report and that's phpize support being almost
complete, that finally two persons seem to be willing to help with the
web frontend parts of the job. Wiki sections with the progress will
follow as well. So please do not interfere with that as it could be
finally take off and the last we need is even more confusions and
politics. Once it is place, I will make the change in the docs
accordingly.

But about linking some random, uncontrolled and especially ones
provided by the initial poster in this thread in our documentation is
an absolute no go. The reasons are numerous and quite obvious if you
have followed the archives.



Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

@pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org

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## #53171 — Philip Olson — 2011-06-07T18:19:56+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/53119#53171 · In reply to: #53170

> 
> 
> > […]
> 
> There is an official report and that's phpize support being almost
> complete, that finally two persons seem to be willing to help with the
> web frontend parts of the job. Wiki sections with the progress will
> follow as well. So please do not interfere with that as it could be
> finally take off and the last we need is even more confusions and
> politics. Once it is place, I will make the change in the docs
> accordingly.

My intent is to push progress and gain clarity.

> But about linking some random, uncontrolled and especially ones
> provided by the initial poster in this thread in our documentation is
> an absolute no go. The reasons are numerous and quite obvious if you
> have followed the archives.

I'm happy to hear progress is being made.

Regards,
Philip
