# GPU Acceleration - Thread: https://externals.io/message/50169 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/50169 - Started by Kenan Sulayman on 2010-11-12T15:23:01+00:00 - Messages: 6 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #50169 — Kenan Sulayman — 2010-11-12T15:23:01+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/50169#50169 Hello out there! I just asked myself, just like that: Why shouldn't it be possible to create a php-work flow which allows the immediate parallelization over GPU to make, for instance, the execution a hundredth times higher? I mean, well - yes it sounds like a stupid idea, we've got 6 GPU-Horses ( servers with Radeon 5970 x2 ) and they could deliver blazing performance. We could be a gazillion times be better in serving or processing content. Right? *even thought it's meant to be parallelization, we could rewrite the code..* So, I'd thank you for *constructive* answers. Cheers, -- (c) *Kenan Sulayman* *Freelance Designer and Programmer* *Life's Live Poetry* --- ## #50170 — Scott MacVicar — 2010-11-12T15:35:26+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/50169#50170 · In reply to: #50169 Do you have a patch for this? The only thing stopping it is no one had written it. - Scott > Hello out there! > > I just asked myself, just like that: Why shouldn't it be possible to create > a php-work flow which allows the immediate parallelization over GPU to make, > for instance, the execution a hundredth times higher? > > I mean, well - yes it sounds like a stupid idea, we've got 6 GPU-Horses ( > servers with Radeon 5970 x2 ) and they could deliver blazing performance. > We could be a gazillion times be better in serving or processing content. > Right? *even thought it's meant to be parallelization, we could rewrite the > code..* > > So, I'd thank you for *constructive* answers. > > Cheers, > -- > (c) *Kenan Sulayman* > *Freelance Designer and Programmer* > > *Life's Live Poetry* --- ## #50171 — Stefan Marr — 2010-11-12T16:09:41+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/50169#50171 · In reply to: #50170 Hi: > Do you have a patch for this? The only thing stopping it is no one had written it. > > […] *sigh* He was asking for constructive answers. Kenan, I guess the most viable approach to go in such a direction is to look at something like HipHop[1] or any other PHP compilation approach. The problem is to find an appropriate workload for the GPU. There is high overhead involved in starting up code on a GPU and typical PHP workloads aren't a good match at all. At least if you stay in the Web app/DB-bound application area. Best regards Stefan [1] https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php [2] http://www.phpcompiler.org/ -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525 --- ## #50172 — Scott MacVicar — 2010-11-12T16:21:32+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/50169#50172 · In reply to: #50171 > Hi: > > > > > […] > > *sigh* He was asking for constructive answers. What's not constructive about it? Seems pretty constructive to me. The original poster has done research into the issue already. The reason most things don't exist is that no one has a patch for it. If it doesn't core in core then it heads into a PECL module or lives as a patch on some site. - Scott --- ## #50175 — Kenan Sulayman — 2010-11-12T17:39:18+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/50169#50175 · In reply to: #50172 Okay, I got it :) I know Hip-Hop, but I mean in general; Most of the stuff here is done the CLI-way.. and okay, I accept Scott's answer ;) Thanks, -- (c) *Kenan Sulayman* *Freelance Designer and Programmer* *Life's Live Poetry* > > > > […] > written it. > > […] > > What's not constructive about it? Seems pretty constructive to me. The > original poster has done research into the issue already. > > The reason most things don't exist is that no one has a patch for it. If it > doesn't core in core then it heads into a PECL module or lives as a patch on > some site. > > - Scott --- ## #50178 — Andi Gutmans — 2010-11-13T00:28:53+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/50169#50178 · In reply to: #50172 > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott MacVicar [mailto:scott@macvicar.net] > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 8:22 AM > To: Stefan Marr > Cc: Kenan Sulayman; PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] GPU Acceleration > > What's not constructive about it? Seems pretty constructive to me. The original > poster has done research into the issue already. What research are you referring to? I must have missed that. There's no magic with GPUs. There are good reasons why few applications/infrastructure components use them. GPUs can be useful for very specific workloads but not necessarily general purpose app server. Btw there are also some workloads that could benefit from leveraging some of the x86 extensions around encryption, vector computation, ... So it boils down to being more specific re: where you think it could benefit and why. Andi > The reason most things don't exist is that no one has a patch for it. If it doesn't > core in core then it heads into a PECL module or lives as a patch on some site.