# svn: /php/php-src/branches/PHP_5_3/ README.NEW-OUTPUT-API Zend/zend_highlight.c Zend/zend_indent.c ext/iconv/iconv.c ext/session/session.c ext/soap/soap.c ext/standard/basic_functions.c ext/standard/exec.c ext/standard/head.c ext/st - Thread: https://externals.io/message/47109 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/47109 - Started by Pierre Joye on 2010-03-11T14:21:36+00:00 - Messages: 12 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #47109 — Pierre Joye — 2010-03-11T14:21:36+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47109 hi, 5.3/6.0/next is not the question here. This change has nothing to do in a stable branch and must be reverted as soon as possible (I will do it tonight if nothing happens until then). I also understand the need to valid this new API and my suggestion could be the best way to do it at this stage: - create a PHP_5_3_NEW_OB branch - maintain it there - merge when it is ready/stable Thanks for your understanding and work. Cheers, -- Pierre > > > > […] > > No, put that stuff in 6! > > regards, > Derick > > -- > http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org > Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php > twitter: @derickr and @xdebug > > -- > > > > -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --- ## #47110 — Lukas Kahwe Smith — 2010-03-11T14:41:56+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47110 · In reply to: #47109 > hi, > > 5.3/6.0/next is not the question here. This change has nothing to do > in a stable branch and must be reverted as soon as possible (I will do > it tonight if nothing happens until then). > > I also understand the need to valid this new API and my suggestion > could be the best way to do it at this stage: > - create a PHP_5_3_NEW_OB branch > - maintain it there > - merge when it is ready/stable > > Thanks for your understanding and work. yeah .. @jani: committing to a stable branch because you are getting a new laptop is not really a convincing argument. :) regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org --- ## #47111 — Jani Taskinen — 2010-03-11T15:22:25+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47111 · In reply to: #47110 > @jani: committing to a stable branch because you are getting a new laptop is not really a convincing argument. :) Losing the one with the changes in it is. Doing patches will only cause endless headaches. Please move on, nothing to see here, it's all for GOOD anyway, fixing bugs USED to be okay in any branch. Besides, this is not end-of-world. If it is for someone, I suggest changing profession. I'd like to have branch for PHP_5_4, I'll also volunteer for RM on it. Perhaps it makes people wanting to get movement in HEAD to actually do something about it. --Jani --- ## #47112 — Derick Rethans — 2010-03-11T15:37:47+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47112 · In reply to: #47109 > 5.3/6.0/next is not the question here. This change has nothing to do > in a stable branch and must be reverted as soon as possible (I will do > it tonight if nothing happens until then). Oh yeah, definitely not disagreeing with that point. I was just trying to say that this shouldn't be a reason to get a PHP 5.4. Derick -- http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug --- ## #47113 — Hannes Magnusson — 2010-03-11T15:59:44+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47113 · In reply to: #47111 > > I'd like to have branch for PHP_5_4, I'll also volunteer for RM on it. > Perhaps it makes people wanting to get movement in HEAD to actually do > something about it. +1 We have several features still in HEAD/trunk that should be merged to a new dev branch. -Hannes --- ## #47115 — Scott MacVicar — 2010-03-11T16:21:18+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47115 · In reply to: #47111 > > > […] > > Losing the one with the changes in it is. Doing patches will only cause endless headaches. Please move on, nothing to see here, it's all for GOOD anyway, fixing bugs USED to be okay in any branch. Besides, this is not end-of-world. If it is for someone, I suggest changing profession. > > I'd like to have branch for PHP_5_4, I'll also volunteer for RM on it. Perhaps it makes people wanting to get movement in HEAD to actually do something about it. +1 I'm all for 5.4, I have a bunch of patches against PHP_5_3 that I want to commit such a large integer support, I couldn't develop against HEAD since it's just not usable. I think we can officially call PHP6 stalled and should move forward with 5.4 and revisit unicode support in the future. Scott --- ## #47116 — Jani Taskinen — 2010-03-11T16:26:12+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47116 · In reply to: #47115 > > > > > […] > > +1 > > I'm all for 5.4, I have a bunch of patches against PHP_5_3 that I want to commit such a large integer support, I couldn't develop against HEAD since it's just not usable. > > I think we can officially call PHP6 stalled and should move forward with 5.4 and revisit unicode support in the future. PHP_5_4 is now there. Feel free. Merging the PHP_5_3_FPM might be a good idea too. --Jani --- ## #47117 — Etienne Kneuss — 2010-03-11T16:26:49+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47117 · In reply to: #47115 > > > > > […] > > +1 > > I'm all for 5.4, I have a bunch of patches against PHP_5_3 that I want to commit such a large integer support, I couldn't develop against HEAD since it's just not usable. > > I think we can officially call PHP6 stalled and should move forward with 5.4 and revisit unicode support in the future. +1 > > Scott > -- > > > > -- Etienne Kneuss http://www.colder.ch --- ## #47118 — Lukas Kahwe Smith — 2010-03-11T16:40:51+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47118 · In reply to: #47116 > > > […] > > > PHP_5_4 is now there. Feel free. Merging the PHP_5_3_FPM might be a good idea too. could you maybe use your own svn server if you want your own private php project? regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org --- ## #47119 — Eric Stewart — 2010-03-11T17:07:30+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47119 · In reply to: #47111 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Jani Taskinen wrote: > > > > […] > > Losing the one with the changes in it is. Doing patches will only cause > endless headaches. Please move on, nothing to see here, it's all for GOOD > anyway, fixing bugs USED to be okay in any branch. Besides, this is not > end-of-world. If it is for someone, I suggest changing profession. > > I'd like to have branch for PHP_5_4, I'll also volunteer for RM on it. > Perhaps it makes people wanting to get movement in HEAD to actually do > something about it. > > --Jani > > > -- > > > > +1 I see no reason why this can't be bullet number one on PHP 5.4 and we already have someone willing to RM it. Probably a bit of an abrupt way to kick off a new release, but somethings it takes that to get the ball moving again. Eric Lee Stewart --- ## #47125 — Pierre Joye — 2010-03-11T18:15:50+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47125 · In reply to: #47111 hi, > > > […] > > Losing the one with the changes in it is. Doing patches will only cause > endless headaches. Please move on, nothing to see here, it's all for GOOD > anyway, fixing bugs USED to be okay in any branch. Besides, this is not > end-of-world. If it is for someone, I suggest changing profession. > > I'd like to have branch for PHP_5_4, I'll also volunteer for RM on it. > Perhaps it makes people wanting to get movement in HEAD to actually do > something about it. Again, the discussion about 5.4 is premature. I see that you created the branch already, which gives the impression that you don't want to act in team but do whatever you want whenever you want. Or am I missing an important discussion regarding this serie of bad moves? Now please revert these two commits and remove the 5.4 branch as we have no agreement or discussion at this point. Please respect the usual process to take decisions, even if they have to be improved, drastically even. If you like to work on this API with 5.3, create a specific branch, that's open and will give you the freedom you need to modify it at wish. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --- ## #47126 — Stanislav Malyshev — 2010-03-11T18:18:02+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/47109#47126 · In reply to: #47115 Hi! > I'm all for 5.4, I have a bunch of patches against PHP_5_3 that I > want to commit such a large integer support, I couldn't develop > against HEAD since it's just not usable. That's interesting (changing the subject :) - how they are implemented, new zval type or user-space? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com