# beta1 - Thread: https://externals.io/message/42714 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/42714 - Started by Lukas Kahwe Smith on 2009-01-19T21:54:41+00:00 - Messages: 7 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #42714 — Lukas Kahwe Smith — 2009-01-19T21:54:41+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/42714#42714 Hi, Given the on going discussions especially about Closures it seems pointless to move towards beta1 this week. Therefore we are delaying beta1 to Feb. 29th. This means we will be freezing for non build/ critical fixes next Monday. Packaging will be the following Wednesday. In order to make this date, its imperative that the involved parties find a compromise by this Thursday and publish a summary on this day as well. The patch should follow ASAP, obviously no later than Monday next week. So please folks think in terms of getting 5.3 out the door and if necessary features should be moved out of 5.3 and worked on in HEAD. I am also waiting on some word on the upgrading guide, Steph??? Maybe someone else can step up to help out here. Nathan should hopefully finally get the php.ini proposal to us. All other important issues seem to be under control and a few others have a few days to get in or not .. so it goes. regards, Johannes and Lukas --- ## #42715 — Lukas Kahwe Smith — 2009-01-19T21:59:27+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/42714#42715 · In reply to: #42714 > Hi, > > Given the on going discussions especially about Closures it seems > pointless to move towards beta1 this week. Therefore we are delaying > beta1 to Feb. 29th. This means we will be freezing for non build/ > critical fixes next Monday. Packaging will be the following Wednesday. of course i meant January. regards, Lukas --- ## #42716 — Steph Fox — 2009-01-19T22:15:56+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/42714#42716 · In reply to: #42714 Hi Lukas, > I am also waiting on some word on the upgrading guide, Steph??? Yes, I'm on it. - Steph --- ## #42720 — Lester Caine — 2009-01-20T07:16:21+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/42714#42720 · In reply to: #42715 Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > > > > > […] > > of course i meant January. Sure? Next 29th Feb looks more practical ;) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php --- ## #42847 — Lukas Kahwe Smith — 2009-01-26T12:02:51+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/42714#42847 · In reply to: #42715 Hey, Just FYI .. today is the last day for feature changes ahead of 5.3.0 beta1. The big change I am waiting on for today is the removal of the OO specific features in closures. Tomorrow will be dedicated to build only fixes, Johannes/Pierre will then handle the packaging some time on Wednesday. They will notify the list once that is done and development may continue then. Note however that we are then in beta state, which is more or less feature freeze time aka bug fixing only. Johannes and I reserve the right to start some finger slapping if people throw in features without previous nods from us. So bug fixing only please! Then we can hopefully follow up with beta2 or better yet already with RC1 in a reasonable amount of time. regards, Lukas --- ## #42851 — Stanislav Malyshev — 2009-01-26T17:30:21+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/42714#42851 · In reply to: #42847 Hi! > Just FYI .. today is the last day for feature changes ahead of 5.3.0 > beta1. The big change I am waiting on for today is the removal of the OO > specific features in closures. Tomorrow will be dedicated to build only What do you mean by "removal of OO specific features"? I thought we agreed on having closures just as they are now. Did anything change? Why? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com --- ## #42853 — Lukas Kahwe Smith — 2009-01-26T21:36:23+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/42714#42853 · In reply to: #42851 > Hi! > > > […] > > What do you mean by "removal of OO specific features"? I thought we > agreed on having closures just as they are now. Did anything change? > Why? Sorry for not communicating this earlier. Johannes and I are just worried that discussions over the OO aspects in closures will continue to slow down the 5.3 release process. In an effort to keep the focus on releasing all the features we do feel 100% comfortable with we have asked Christian to do this change. He agreed to this, even though he of course would rather have kept the OO features in, but he was none the less willing to do this for the greater good (as defined by the RMs). So in other words if you feel this is bad, blame the RMs .. but the decision still stands (I hope we RMs have enough credit to make such a decision). regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org