# alpha3 - Thread: https://externals.io/message/41738 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/41738 - Started by Lukas Kahwe Smith on 2008-11-06T21:00:00+00:00 - Messages: 6 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #41738 — Lukas Kahwe Smith — 2008-11-06T21:00:00+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/41738#41738 Hi, This are tentatively looking like alpha3 could hit on November 18th. So everybody please try to get whatever you are working on ready to be finished and committed by no later than 13th. So that packaging can happen on a stable tree on the 17th. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org --- ## #41752 — Hannes Magnusson — 2008-11-07T08:29:08+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/41738#41752 · In reply to: #41738 > Hi, > > This are tentatively looking like alpha3 could hit on November 18th. > So everybody please try to get whatever you are working on ready to be > finished and committed by no later than 13th. So that packaging can happen > on a stable tree on the 17th. Is the output buffering MFH still a lost cause? -Hannes --- ## #41753 — Pierre Joye — 2008-11-07T08:30:04+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/41738#41753 · In reply to: #41752 hi! On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > > > […] > > Is the output buffering MFH still a lost cause? I hope not, it is a must have. Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --- ## #41754 — Lukas Kahwe Smith — 2008-11-07T08:51:00+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/41738#41754 · In reply to: #41753 > hi! > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: > > […] > > I hope not, it is a must have. To quote myself on this topic: "These are all convincing arguments to have done this earlier. But Johannes and I are a bit worried, that this code did not see that much testing since it was checked in to HEAD quite a while ago. And seeing that the backport is mainly cleanup and not bug fixing, we are a bit worried about the risk this backport has (not necessarily in it introducing bugs, but more about BC issues here and there). Especially since it seems that you are the only one who actively looks after output buffering .. (Johannes actually asked to have this stuff in PHP 5.3 months ago, but you were a bit MIA back then .. and nobody else showed interest). So unless you can take our worries away in terms of BC issues, I guess we would prefer to leave this patch out of PHP 5.3. Sorry about the misunderstanding and the work you put into producing this patch." regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org --- ## #41755 — Pierre Joye — 2008-11-07T08:57:06+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/41738#41755 · In reply to: #41754 hi, > To quote myself on this topic: > "These are all convincing arguments to have done this earlier. But Johannes > and I are a bit worried, that this code did not see that much testing since > it was checked in to HEAD quite a while ago. And seeing that the backport is > mainly cleanup and not bug fixing, we are a bit worried about the risk this > backport has (not necessarily in it introducing bugs, but more about BC > issues here and there). Especially since it seems that you are the only one > who actively looks after output buffering .. (Johannes actually asked to > have this stuff in PHP 5.3 months ago, but you were a bit MIA back then .. > and nobody else showed interest). > > So unless you can take our worries away in terms of BC issues, I guess we > would prefer to leave this patch out of PHP 5.3. > Sorry about the misunderstanding and the work you put into producing this > patch." It is why alpha releases are for. If we don't merge it we should simply drop it in HEAD and forget it. This code has been there for years now, it is time to bring it to a stable branch. The same applies for other code in HEAD not having merged to 5.3. Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org --- ## #41813 — johannes@php.net — 2008-11-10T11:54:09+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/41738#41813 · In reply to: #41755 > It is why alpha releases are for. If we don't merge it we should > simply drop it in HEAD and forget it. This code has been there for > years now, it is time to bring it to a stable branch. The same applies > for other code in HEAD not having merged to 5.3. So, did anybody do a review of the ob code? I know it's in HEAD for ages, but I consider the ob stuff a critical part of PHP which I don't want to see broken, I'm fine with some random extension being broken, but not with a central piece of PHP .. and even having it in HEAD doesn't mean it's really tested there - I guess just a few people do more with head than just compiling and running make test. Back one year ago, it was discussed and I liked it but nobody had the time&motivation to port it to 5.3, having it early would have been nice. For now: Who does a review and who is willing to be responsible for fixing probable bugs? johannes