# Concerning Thies's and Sterling's "Hack"

- Thread: https://externals.io/message/4165
- Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/4165
- Started by Sebastian Bergmann on 2003-08-25T12:03:10+00:00
- Messages: 5
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## #4165 — Sebastian Bergmann — 2003-08-25T12:03:10+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/4165#4165

Since nobody -- not even the "perpetrators" themselves -- has brought
  this to this list yet I'll simply post these two links:

    - http://edwardbear.org/optimizations

    - http://www.edwardbear.org/fasterharderstronger.diff

  I am posting this since there are already a couple of people asking
  whether or not these optimizations will make into the official PHP
  versions and this list seems to be the place of choice for discussing
  this, no? :-)

-- 
Sebastian Bergmann
http://sebastian-bergmann.de/                   http://phpOpenTracker.de/

Das Buch zu PHP 5: http://professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/

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## #4327 — Sterling Hughes — 2003-08-31T11:12:24+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/4165#4327 · In reply to: #4326

yes.  PHP4 was only chosen because PHP5 (Zend Engine 2) was a moving
target, and after a day, our patch would be broken, or we'd constantly
have to remerge.  Nearly every optimization applys to Zend Engine 2,
with the exception of the optimizations that are already in Zend Engine
2 that is :)

-Sterling

Am Mo, 2003-09-01 um 01.29 schrieb Cristiano Duarte:
> Does these hacks apply to ZE2 too ?
> 
> "Sebastian Bergmann" <sebastian@php.net> escreveu na mensagem
> news:php.internals-4165@news.php.net...
> > […]
-- 
We all agree on the necessity of compromise.  We just can't agree on when  
it's necessary to compromise. 
  - Larry Wall

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## #4329 — Sterling Hughes — 2003-08-31T11:25:43+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/4165#4329 · In reply to: #4328

we're not planning anything.  sebastian brought this to the list, not
us.

-sterling

Am Mo, 2003-09-01 um 01.43 schrieb Cristiano Duarte:
> How long have you been testing these hacks? Are there any side-effects ?
> Are you planning a ZE2 patch?  I can test it...
> 
> Cristiano
> 
> "Sterling Hughes" <sterling@bumblebury.com> escreveu na mensagem
> news:1062328344.31562.57.camel@hasele...
> > […]
> brought
> > […]
> discussing
> > […]
> http://phpOpenTracker.de/
> > […]
> http://professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/
> > […]
-- 
"Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." 
    - Linus Torvalds

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## #4326 — Cristiano Duarte — 2003-08-31T23:29:26+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/4165#4326 · In reply to: #4165

Does these hacks apply to ZE2 too ?

"Sebastian Bergmann" <sebastian@php.net> escreveu na mensagem
news:php.internals-4165@news.php.net...
>   Since nobody -- not even the "perpetrators" themselves -- has brought
>   this to this list yet I'll simply post these two links:
>
>     - http://edwardbear.org/optimizations
>
>     - http://www.edwardbear.org/fasterharderstronger.diff
>
>   I am posting this since there are already a couple of people asking
>   whether or not these optimizations will make into the official PHP
>   versions and this list seems to be the place of choice for discussing
>   this, no? :-)
>
> --
> Sebastian Bergmann
> http://sebastian-bergmann.de/                   http://phpOpenTracker.de/
>
> Das Buch zu PHP 5: http://professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/

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## #4328 — Cristiano Duarte — 2003-08-31T23:43:08+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/4165#4328 · In reply to: #4327

How long have you been testing these hacks? Are there any side-effects ?
Are you planning a ZE2 patch?  I can test it...

Cristiano

"Sterling Hughes" <sterling@bumblebury.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:1062328344.31562.57.camel@hasele...
> yes.  PHP4 was only chosen because PHP5 (Zend Engine 2) was a moving
> target, and after a day, our patch would be broken, or we'd constantly
> have to remerge.  Nearly every optimization applys to Zend Engine 2,
> with the exception of the optimizations that are already in Zend Engine
> 2 that is :)
>
> -Sterling
>
> Am Mo, 2003-09-01 um 01.29 schrieb Cristiano Duarte:
> > […]
brought
> > […]
discussing
> > […]
http://phpOpenTracker.de/
> > […]
http://professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/
> --
> We all agree on the necessity of compromise.  We just can't agree on when
> it's necessary to compromise.
>   - Larry Wall
