# MySQL problems - Thread: https://externals.io/message/3451 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/3451 - Started by Georg Richter on 2003-07-16T23:59:16+00:00 - Messages: 11 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #3451 — Georg Richter — 2003-07-16T23:59:16+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/3451#3451 Hi, since PHP5 beta is out I got tons of emails which a) complained about missing libmysql for ext/mysqli b) about licensing problems and possible solutions. I'm not able to answer all these mails, currently I work 500km away from home and I'm not able to check all these mails. So would it be ok to forward it to this list? Or to the people which removed bundled libmysql ? Regards Georg --- ## #3452 — Sterling Hughes — 2003-07-17T00:04:07+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/3451#3452 · In reply to: #3451 Just don't reply. -Sterling > Hi, > > since PHP5 beta is out I got tons of emails which a) complained about missing > libmysql for ext/mysqli b) about licensing problems and possible solutions. > > I'm not able to answer all these mails, currently I work 500km away from home > and I'm not able to check all these mails. So would it be ok to forward it to > this list? Or to the people which removed bundled libmysql ? > > Regards > > Georg -- If a 6600 used paper tape instead of core memory, it would use up tape at about 30 miles/second. - Grishman, Assembly Language Programming --- ## #3455 — Derick Rethans — 2003-07-17T07:05:49+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/3451#3455 · In reply to: #3451 Hi! > since PHP5 beta is out I got tons of emails which a) complained about missing > libmysql for ext/mysqli b) about licensing problems and possible solutions. Write a faq entry to which you/we can point them? I think that might be the best solution. regards, Derick -- "Interpreting what the GPL actually means is a job best left to those that read the future by examining animal entrails." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ International PHP Magazine http://php-mag.net/ --- ## #3456 — Derick Rethans — 2003-07-17T07:06:51+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/3451#3456 > We *have* to ungrade PHP docs to reflect all those kind of changes in > the new release... And we *have* to generate the docs more often. I > *always* find obsoletes informations on the PHP website, and when I look > on CVS, it's already fixed... But still, doesn't show on the "official" > docs on the website. I'm going to start a doc build in one hour, if you get a faq entry in it will be online tonight. regards, Derick -- "Interpreting what the GPL actually means is a job best left to those that read the future by examining animal entrails." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ International PHP Magazine http://php-mag.net/ --- ## #3457 — Sterling Hughes — 2003-07-17T09:46:30+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/3451#3457 > Sterling Hughes wrote: > > […] > > Kind of rude... We should a *least* have an auto-reply directing to a > "closed bug" report telling users to use the system libmysql. I had > *absolutely* no problems compiling with mysql, but that's because I did > know that it wasn't bundled anymore. > Not rude at all. A user comes to you, without ever meeting you, asks a question, some of your time, often in an unpolite manner and its rude not to reply? Please. If you respond to users (that you don't know), its just going to give your life unnecessary aggravation. Just pipe to /dev/null and be done with it, they'll find their answer elsewhere. For example, when I started responding "I charge 120 USD p/h for technical support, and I would be glad to help you." It was amazing how many users responded back, usually within 5 minutes, "nm found it on Google." Apparently 5 minutes of my time to respond, is worth 5 less than 5 minutes of their time to search on google. The others didn't respond at all btw. PHP Developer's are not your or anybody's personal support desk. If we do answer, be grateful, buy us something from our wishlist, most times we just did you a big favor. If we don't, please don't call us rude. You've never done anything for us, nor do you even know us. -Sterling -- "Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." - Linus Torvalds --- ## #3463 — Olivier Hill — 2003-07-18T00:25:38+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/3451#3463 · In reply to: #3457 Sterling Hughes wrote: > > If we don't, please don't call us rude. You've never done anything for > us, nor do you even know us. Thanks for the flaming, I wasn't pointing it back at you. I know lot of users are lazy and kind of angry sometimes. But we need to provide the proper information so we could say: RTFM. As for the "you've done nothing and you don't know us", I've met a few of the PHP group in Montreal recently, and I surely mean it when I say: "If I can so something with the so little knowledge I have, then I'd be happy to". Be back in a few with the ./configure patch and the message.. Feel free to correct my English. Oliver -- GB/E/IT d+ s+:+ a-- C++$ UL++++$ P++++ L+++$ E- W++$ N- ?o ?K w--(---) !O M+$ V- PS+ PE- Y PGP t++ 5-- X+@ R- tv++ b++(+++) DI++++ D+ G++ e+>++ h(*) r y+(?) --- ## #3468 — Olivier Hill — 2003-07-18T02:06:49+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/3451#3468 Jani Taskinen wrote: > There's absolutely NO reason to add any notes in configure.in > about mysql. If you use --with-mysql and the libs are not found > in your system, it'll error out.. > > --Jani But then, the user is asking: Why does it error out? The purpose was to inform the user where he can find help. Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe I'm just being stupid, Oliver -- GB/E/IT d+ s+:+ a-- C++$ UL++++$ P++++ L+++$ E- W++$ N- ?o ?K w--(---) !O M+$ V- PS+ PE- Y PGP t++ 5-- X+@ R- tv++ b++(+++) DI++++ D+ G++ e+>++ h(*) r y+(?) --- ## #3469 — Jani Taskinen — 2003-07-18T02:14:16+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/3451#3469 · In reply to: #3468 >Jani Taskinen wrote: > > […] > >But then, the user is asking: Why does it error out? It tells exactly why it's erroring. See ext/mysql/config.m4 for more information. Of course that error checking stuff should be improved, I'm just not interested since this really isn't any problem for *nix users. >The purpose was to inform the user where he can find help. This is not the problem you should be solving, move along. --Jani --- ## #3470 — Olivier Hill — 2003-07-18T02:28:18+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/3451#3470 · In reply to: #3469 Jani Taskinen wrote: > > […] > > This is not the problem you should be solving, move along. I just did what Marcus suggested: inform the user about the new "policies" regarding MySQL/PHP integration. If the user is aware of the problem, he won't ask George why it's not working anymore (with the bundled librairies), fixing the "one-on-one" user/developper questions. Anyways, I'll just shup up and sit back, reading my email, since I feel I'm disturbing some developpers on this list.. Sorry if I did/ask/wanted to contribute too much. Oliver -- GB/E/IT d+ s+:+ a-- C++$ UL++++$ P++++ L+++$ E- W++$ N- ?o ?K w--(---) !O M+$ V- PS+ PE- Y PGP t++ 5-- X+@ R- tv++ b++(+++) DI++++ D+ G++ e+>++ h(*) r y+(?) --- ## #3473 — Derick Rethans — 2003-07-18T06:55:32+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/3451#3473 · In reply to: #3468 > Jani Taskinen wrote: > > […] > > But then, the user is asking: Why does it error out? THey can find the clue in the NEWS file which they've read anyway. Derick -- "Interpreting what the GPL actually means is a job best left to those that read the future by examining animal entrails." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ International PHP Magazine http://php-mag.net/ --- ## #3474 — Derick Rethans — 2003-07-18T06:58:08+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/3451#3474 · In reply to: #3463 > Sterling Hughes wrote: > > […] > > Thanks for the flaming, I wasn't pointing it back at you. And Sterling was referring to the guys asking for help... > I know lot of users are lazy and kind of angry sometimes. But we need to > provide the proper information so we could say: RTFM. Write a FAQ then, like I suggested. Derick -- "Interpreting what the GPL actually means is a job best left to those that read the future by examining animal entrails." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ International PHP Magazine http://php-mag.net/