# Simple Namespace Proposal - Thread: https://externals.io/message/30460 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/30460 - Started by Tony Bibbs on 2007-07-05T13:56:14+00:00 - Messages: 2 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #30460 — Tony Bibbs — 2007-07-05T13:56:14+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/30460#30460 As a PHP user also frustrated with lack and namespaces and having lurked here for a while I know there was a prior proposal and many countless, lengthy discussions on separators and all. Have the prior proposals been invalidated? --Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: Stefan Priebsch To: David Coallier Cc: Dmitry Stogov ; PHP internals Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2007 8:26:25 AM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Simple Namespace Proposal David Coallier schrieb: > I would probably be in favor of throwing a notice or a warning when > someone modifies a built-in function (or even throw an exception) and > that way as soon as you do such thing you would know right away that > you modified something and you would know where the modification > happened which would make things much easier for people developing and > debugging applications. The problem is that this kind of overloading makes a nice feature as well. This is runied by throwing an exception, and cautious developers will at least get nervous when they see a notice. I could imagine that by adding something like "overrides foo()" or "overloads foo()" to a function/method declaration the developer could make clear that he willingly overrides a built-in function, and if this is missing, an exception is being thrown. This may be a little over the top, however. Kind regards, Stefan -- >e-novative> - We make IT work for you. e-novative GmbH - HR: Amtsgericht München HRB 139407 Sitz: Wolfratshausen - GF: Dipl. Inform. Stefan Priebsch http://www.e-novative.de --- ## #30463 — Stanislav Malyshev — 2007-07-05T16:05:47+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/30460#30463 · In reply to: #30460 > As a PHP user also frustrated with lack and namespaces and having > lurked here for a while I know there was a prior proposal and many > countless, lengthy discussions on separators and all. Have the prior > proposals been invalidated? I think most prior proposals tried to do too much and got into various complications because of that. As for separators, I still didn't see any idea that made departing from established :: worthwhile. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com