# [SPAM] Re: Syntactic improvement to array - Thread: https://externals.io/message/27860 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/27860 - Started by Ford on 2007-02-06T15:41:38+00:00 - Messages: 2 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #27860 — Ford — 2007-02-06T15:41:38+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/27860#27860 > > > […] > > Ummm, you still had to read it. One "glance" just so happens to > involve the brain grokking the content, just like reading. No, I didn't have to read it. I had to look at it and see its shape, and I may or may not have grokked it, but I didn't read it. I still have no idea what's actually *in* the arrays, I just know there are arrays and how they're structured. My brain, virtually instantaneously, goes, "Oh, brackets, nested arrays, 2 short arrays nested in an enclosing outer one!". I don't class that as reading, just visual comprehension. With the long version, my thought process goes more like "Uh, oh, indentation, must be some structure here. Can't see any obvious syntactic markers, just a mush of characters, so better read it. 'array', uh, ok an array, what's in it? explicit index 1 is, oh, 'array' again, ok, so we've got nested arrays, presumably this line is a self-contained inner array? let's see, 'pears', 'apples', and, oh yes, a proper matching close parenthesis; next line similar, explicit index 2, 'juice', 'oranges' and a close parenthesis, yup and a proper closing parenthesis for the outer array; right, 2 short arrays nested in an outer enclosing one." See how I've actually had to read and process *every* *single* *word* *and* *character* on the page? See how much slower it was? Now, that's what I call reading. My brain may be weird and unusual in working this way, but it does so I've become accustomed to it! I know it's off the norm in other areas (I have no problem keeping a dozen or so PINs in my head and reliably producing the right one without hesitation, and I generally remember personal ID, bank account and credit card numbers without even trying) so it wouldn't surprise me to find I'm way off the curve here too. Just permit me my little foibles, eh? Cheers! Mike --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Ford, Electronic Information Services Adviser, Learning Support Services, Learning & Information Services, JG125, James Graham Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Headingley Campus, LEEDS, LS6 3QS, United Kingdom Email: m.ford@leedsmet.ac.uk Tel: +44 113 283 2600 extn 4730 Fax: +44 113 283 3211 To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm --- ## #27861 — Robert Cummings — 2007-02-06T16:09:24+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/27860#27861 · In reply to: #27860 > > > > […] > > No, I didn't have to read it. I had to look at it and see its shape, and I may or may not have grokked it, but I didn't read it. I still have no idea what's actually *in* the arrays, I just know there are arrays and how they're structured. My brain, virtually instantaneously, goes, "Oh, brackets, nested arrays, 2 short arrays nested in an enclosing outer one!". I don't class that as reading, just visual comprehension. > > With the long version, my thought process goes more like "Uh, oh, indentation, must be some structure here. Can't see any obvious syntactic markers, just a mush of characters, so better read it. 'array', uh, ok an array, what's in it? explicit index 1 is, oh, 'array' again, ok, so we've got nested arrays, presumably this line is a self-contained inner array? let's see, 'pears', 'apples', and, oh yes, a proper matching close parenthesis; next line similar, explicit index 2, 'juice', 'oranges' and a close parenthesis, yup and a proper closing parenthesis for the outer array; right, 2 short arrays nested in an outer enclosing one." See how I've actually had to read and process *every* *single* *word* *and* *character* on the page? See how much slower it was? Now, that's what I call reading. > > My brain may be weird and unusual in working this way, but it does so I've become accustomed to it! I know it's off the norm in other areas (I have no problem keeping a dozen or so PINs in my head and reliably producing the right one without hesitation, and I generally remember personal ID, bank account and credit card numbers without even trying) so it wouldn't surprise me to find I'm way off the curve here too. Just permit me my little foibles, eh? > > Cheers! I know how much you want to feel special, but here's the definition of "read". Your description of how you interpret what you see falls into this definition: http://209.161.37.11/dictionary/read Cheers, Rob. -- .------------------------------------------------------------. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :------------------------------------------------------------: | An application and templating framework for PHP. 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