# CVS Account Request: merlin

- Thread: https://externals.io/message/23711
- Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/23711
- Started by Pavlo Shelyazhenko on 2006-05-27T14:34:40+00:00
- Messages: 13
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## #23711 — Pavlo Shelyazhenko — 2006-05-27T14:34:40+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23711

To develop the Summer of Code project - PHP Macro Preprocessor

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## #23712 — Pierre — 2006-05-27T15:12:00+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23712 · In reply to: #23711

> To develop the Summer of Code project - PHP Macro Preprocessor

Once there is some code to see, we will create your accounts and give
you CVS access. Also we should name your project before the first
commit.

--Pierre

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## #23713 — Marcus Boerger — 2006-05-27T15:12:08+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23713 · In reply to: #23712

Hello Pierre,

  you don't mind if the Mentors take care of their students do you?

Saturday, May 27, 2006, 5:12:00 PM, you wrote:

> 
> > […]

> Once there is some code to see, we will create your accounts and give
> you CVS access. Also we should name your project before the first
> commit.

> --Pierre

Best regards,
 Marcus

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## #23714 — Pierre — 2006-05-27T15:16:13+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23714 · In reply to: #23713

> Hello Pierre,
>
>   you don't mind if the Mentors take care of their students do you?

Let me rephrase. SoC or not, Mr. Boerger or not, it does not matter.

The base principle to get a PECL/PEAR/PHP.net account and cvs access is to:

- Introduce yourself to the project list (internals or pecl in that case)
- Show up some sources code, incl. the license and some roadmaps


Thanks for your attention,

--Pierre

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## #23715 — Antony Dovgal — 2006-05-27T15:21:17+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23715 · In reply to: #23714

> 
> > […]
> 
> Let me rephrase. SoC or not, Mr. Boerger or not, it does not matter.
> 
> The base principle to get a PECL/PEAR/PHP.net account and cvs access is to:
> 
> - Introduce yourself to the project list (internals or pecl in that case)
> - Show up some sources code, incl. the license and some roadmaps

I have to second that.
It's not about you, Marcus, or Pavlo, or anybody else. It's about rules. 
If you have nothing to show atm - there is no reason to apply for an account.

-- 
Wbr, 
Antony Dovgal

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## #23716 — Wez Furlong — 2006-05-27T15:39:59+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23716 · In reply to: #23714

Of course, if a upstanding member of our community can vouch for
someone then we have no problem with opening up an account.  This is
precisely what the mentor is doing here.

I've opened up PECL and CVS accounts for Pavlo, but granted no karma yet.

Marcus (and other mentors): where CVS access is required, please
advise us the portions of the repository for which karma is needed.

--Wez.


> 
> > […]
> Let me rephrase. SoC or not, Mr. Boerger or not, it does not matter.
> The base principle to get a PECL/PEAR/PHP.net account and cvs access is to:
> - Introduce yourself to the project list (internals or pecl in that case)
> - Show up some sources code, incl. the license and some roadmaps

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## #23717 — Marcus Boerger — 2006-05-27T15:43:40+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23717 · In reply to: #23716

Hello Wez,

  thanks a lot. Special access has to be discussed separately of course
as with any body else.

best regards
marcus

Saturday, May 27, 2006, 5:39:59 PM, you wrote:

> Of course, if a upstanding member of our community can vouch for
> someone then we have no problem with opening up an account.  This is
> precisely what the mentor is doing here.

> I've opened up PECL and CVS accounts for Pavlo, but granted no karma yet.

> Marcus (and other mentors): where CVS access is required, please
> advise us the portions of the repository for which karma is needed.

> --Wez.

> 
> > […]




Best regards,
 Marcus

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## #23718 — Pierre — 2006-05-27T15:54:20+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23718 · In reply to: #23716

> Of course, if a upstanding member of our community can vouch for
> someone then we have no problem with opening up an account.  This is
> precisely what the mentor is doing here.
>
> I've opened up PECL and CVS accounts for Pavlo, but granted no karma yet.

It is a mistake. We never proceeded like that and I see no reason to do it now.

The whole decision process is opaque, sticking to our rules would make
it more transparent.

--Pierre

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## #23719 — Wez Furlong — 2006-05-27T15:58:18+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23719 · In reply to: #23718

The whole point of the mentor is to streamline the process of getting
new blood into a project; I see no reason to make it more difficult by
being too rigid.

--Wez.


> 
> > […]
>
> It is a mistake. We never proceeded like that and I see no reason to do it now.
>
> The whole decision process is opaque, sticking to our rules would make
> it more transparent.
>
> --Pierre

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## #23720 — Pierre — 2006-05-27T16:01:11+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23720 · In reply to: #23719

> The whole point of the mentor is to streamline the process of getting
> new blood into a project; I see no reason to make it more difficult by
> being too rigid.

It is not being rigid to ask some more transparency. We had reasons to
define these simple rules, I don't reasons to forget them for SoC.

We are not asking the mood, but some codes and a roadmap. Something to
show us what is the project etc. like in any other previous proposals.

--Pierre

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## #23721 — Wez Furlong — 2006-05-27T16:04:31+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23721 · In reply to: #23720

The mentors have already volunteered their time to guide the SoC folks
through the process; we should back them up and let them get on with
it; there is little point in wasting our collective time in bickering
over the fine print.

--Wez



> 
> > […]
>
> It is not being rigid to ask some more transparency. We had reasons to
> define these simple rules, I don't reasons to forget them for SoC.
>
> We are not asking the mood, but some codes and a roadmap. Something to
> show us what is the project etc. like in any other previous proposals.
>
> --Pierre

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## #23723 — Marcus Boerger — 2006-05-27T16:08:01+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23723 · In reply to: #23720

Hello Pierre,

  everything will be only. At least on code.google.com in a bit if you don't
let me continue to do th eadminstration part...

Saturday, May 27, 2006, 6:01:11 PM, you wrote:

> 
> > […]

> It is not being rigid to ask some more transparency. We had reasons to
> define these simple rules, I don't reasons to forget them for SoC.

> We are not asking the mood, but some codes and a roadmap. Something to
> show us what is the project etc. like in any other previous proposals.

> --Pierre



Best regards,
 Marcus

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## #23722 — Pierre — 2006-05-27T16:09:36+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/23711#23722 · In reply to: #23721

> The mentors have already volunteered their time to guide the SoC folks
> through the process; we should back them up and let them get on with
> it; there is little point in wasting our collective time in bickering
> over the fine print.

Excuse me to take care of your job. And excuse me to ask things I
should not ask. I will simply open accounts in the future.

--Pierre
