# Curlies again [was: Upgrade notes for PHP 5.1 - final draft]

- Thread: https://externals.io/message/20191
- Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/20191
- Started by Matthias Pigulla on 2005-11-20T13:26:30+00:00
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## #20191 — Matthias Pigulla — 2005-11-20T13:26:30+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/20191#20191

If I got that right, you still want to discourage {} and un-deprecate []
again, despite all the good reasons given on this list not to do so?

PHP5.1 would be accomplishing facts as to this one. ("Let's remove {}
altogether in 6 - nobody should be using them anyway as they were
deprecated since 5.1").

The discussion on this list would be silenced and take place "out there"
with a much broader audience instead.

Changing language syntax that way back and forth again will cause a loss
in credibility - once again after the 4.4.0 release.

-mp.

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## #20194 — Derick Rethans — 2005-11-20T13:50:38+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/20191#20194 · In reply to: #20191

> Changing language syntax that way back and forth again will cause a loss
> in credibility - once again after the 4.4.0 release.

If you prefer a PHP which causes strange crashses and memory 
corruptions, please downgrade to 4.3.11. I am getting tired about this 
bickering about this **FIX** that makes PHP stable.

Derick

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## #20195 — Robert Cummings — 2005-11-20T14:35:33+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/20191#20195 · In reply to: #20194

> 
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> > […]
> 
> If you prefer a PHP which causes strange crashses and memory 
> corruptions, please downgrade to 4.3.11. I am getting tired about this 
> bickering about this **FIX** that makes PHP stable.

I'm fine with the dropping of curly braces, but your attempt to rename
this issue as a **FIX** is a bit arrogant and condescending. But maybe
you know of some crashes directly related to curly braces, or maybe
we're expected to swallow that the deprecation of [] in favour of {} as
posted on the official site and now apparent in many language reference
books... was a typo.

Cheers,
Rob.
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## #20196 — Derick Rethans — 2005-11-20T14:37:17+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/20191#20196 · In reply to: #20195

> 
> > […]
> 
> I'm fine with the dropping of curly braces, but your attempt to rename
> this issue as a **FIX** is a bit arrogant and condescending.

Huh, I was talking about the reference issue, not about the curlies.

Derick

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## #20203 — Robert Cummings — 2005-11-20T19:22:19+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/20191#20203 · In reply to: #20196

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> > […]
> 
> Huh, I was talking about the reference issue, not about the curlies.

*lol* Sorry, the subject confused me then :)

Cheers,
Rob.
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