# wishlist item for 6.0.0 - Thread: https://externals.io/message/19331 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/19331 - Started by Darren Horrocks on 2005-10-02T20:54:56+00:00 - Messages: 9 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #19331 — Darren Horrocks — 2005-10-02T20:54:56+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/19331#19331 proper scopes for global, classes and functions. will allow for local variables for functions and classes without having to use $this->foo in classes and will allow for a more c/c++ like classes. also, being able to call up the inheritance by using ParentClass::bar(); --- ## #19332 — Petar Nedyalkov — 2005-10-03T06:43:41+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/19331#19332 · In reply to: #19331 > proper scopes for global, classes and functions. > will allow for local variables for functions and classes without having to > use $this->foo in classes and will allow for a more c/c++ like classes. I think this will pollute the namespace a lot and may lead to spaghetti code problems. > also, being able to call up the inheritance by using ParentClass::bar(); This has already been implemented. Check: http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.paamayim-nekudotayim.php -- Cyberly yours, Petar Nedyalkov Devoted Orbitel Fan :-) PGP ID: 7AE45436 PGP Public Key: http://bu.orbitel.bg/pgp/bu.asc PGP Fingerprint: 7923 8D52 B145 02E8 6F63 8BDA 2D3F 7C0B 7AE4 5436 --- ## #19393 — Hartmut Holzgraefe — 2005-10-04T13:23:03+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/19331#19393 · In reply to: #19332 Petar Nedyalkov wrote: > > […] > > I think this will pollute the namespace a lot and may lead to spaghetti code > problems. When reading C++ code it's usually rather hard to determine whether a given variable is a member of the class, one of its parent classes, the local context or something global. So i'm all for keeping the $this-> prefix even though it adds some extra typing ... --- ## #19431 — Stanislav Malyshev — 2005-10-06T09:14:39+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/19331#19431 · In reply to: #19393 HH>>So i'm all for keeping the $this-> prefix even though it adds some HH>>extra typing ... Just a thought - we could have compromise solution, i.e. some syntax sugar to mean $this->foo - for example $.foo or something like that. This way we have clear visual difference between locals and properties and at the same time save a lot of $this-> typing. Of course, the downside is that you coudl type $. accidentally :) -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ +972-3-6139665 ext.115 --- ## #19432 — Jani Taskinen — 2005-10-06T09:19:50+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/19331#19432 · In reply to: #19431 > > HH>>So i'm all for keeping the $this-> prefix even though it adds some > HH>>extra typing ... > > Just a thought - we could have compromise solution, i.e. some syntax sugar > to mean $this->foo - for example $.foo or something like that. This way we > have clear visual difference between locals and properties and at the same > time save a lot of $this-> typing. Of course, the downside is that you > coudl type $. accidentally :) And make the scripts even harder to read? No thanks. $this->is_fine. --Jani --- ## #19434 — Kevin Waterson — 2005-10-06T09:34:33+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/19331#19434 · In reply to: #19431 This one time, at band camp, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > HH>>So i'm all for keeping the $this-> prefix even though it adds some > HH>>extra typing ... > > Just a thought - we could have compromise solution, i.e. some syntax sugar > to mean $this->foo - for example $.foo or something like that. $.foo spurns directly from HELL Kevin -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." --- ## #19507 — Sebastian Bergmann — 2005-10-08T08:36:14+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/19331#19507 · In reply to: #19432 Jani Taskinen schrieb: > $this->is_fine. $me->agrees(); -- Sebastian Bergmann http://www.sebastian-bergmann.de/ GnuPG Key: 0xB85B5D69 / 27A7 2B14 09E4 98CD 6277 0E5B 6867 C514 B85B 5D69 --- ## #19515 — Michael Crute — 2005-10-08T15:32:56+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/19331#19515 · In reply to: #19507 > > Jani Taskinen schrieb: > > […] > > $me->agrees(); > > Count me in for $this->way. It just makes more sense and is far easier to read. -Mike -- ________________________________ Michael E. Crute Software Developer SoftGroup Development Corporation Linux, because reboots are for installing hardware. "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?" --- ## #19516 — Marcus Boerger — 2005-10-08T15:56:09+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/19331#19516 · In reply to: #19431 Hello Stanislav, $.this_is_ridiculous, as in $.this != $this marcus Thursday, October 6, 2005, 11:14:39 AM, you wrote: HH>>>So i'm all for keeping the $this-> prefix even though it adds some HH>>>extra typing ... > Just a thought - we could have compromise solution, i.e. some syntax sugar > to mean $this->foo - for example $.foo or something like that. This way we > have clear visual difference between locals and properties and at the same > time save a lot of $this-> typing. Of course, the downside is that you > coudl type $. accidentally :) > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer > stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ +972-3-6139665 ext.115 Best regards, Marcus