# Summer of Code

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- Started by Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg on 2005-06-03T20:39:59+00:00
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## #16366 — Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg — 2005-06-03T20:39:59+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/16366#16366

How did PHP end up getting shut out of the Google Summer of Code
project?

http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html

They've got Perl and Python, and even some PHP projects, such as
Gallery, Horde, and Mambo.

Did they e-mail the PHP Group? Did we not jump on this quick enough?
Or was there some reason why we chose to stay out?

-adam

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## #16367 — Ilia Alshanetsky — 2005-06-03T20:49:17+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/16366#16367 · In reply to: #16366

Adam,

Perhaps the mentoring FAQ will give you a clue why, specifically the 
"What is the role of a mentoring organization?" portion. :-)

http://code.google.com/mentfaq.html


Ilia

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## #16368 — Nuno Lopes — 2005-06-03T20:55:32+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/16366#16368 · In reply to: #16367

Personally, this could be a good opportunity for me to start learning the 
PHP and Zend APIs...

Nuno


----- Original Message ----- 
> Adam,
>
> Perhaps the mentoring FAQ will give you a clue why, specifically the "What 
> is the role of a mentoring organization?" portion. :-)
>
> http://code.google.com/mentfaq.html
>
>
> Ilia

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## #16369 — Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg — 2005-06-03T21:00:22+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/16366#16369 · In reply to: #16367

> Perhaps the mentoring FAQ will give you a clue why, specifically the
> "What is the role of a mentoring organization?" portion. :-)
>
> http://code.google.com/mentfaq.html

In other words, we are all too busy to administer the program? That is
a valid answer, but I would prefer to hear that explicitly.

I certainly know we have a list of PHP, PEAR, and PECL projects that
could use some free labor, and it's not like as if we need to accept
every single person who applies. We could some vetting to make sure we
have somewhat skilled people working on the tasks.

-adam

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## #16370 — Rasmus Lerdorf — 2005-06-03T21:01:25+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/16366#16370 · In reply to: #16366

Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg wrote:
> How did PHP end up getting shut out of the Google Summer of Code
> project?
> 
> http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html
> 
> They've got Perl and Python, and even some PHP projects, such as
> Gallery, Horde, and Mambo.
> 
> Did they e-mail the PHP Group? Did we not jump on this quick enough?
> Or was there some reason why we chose to stay out?

We were never contacted.  I did know about it through other channels,
but I really hadn't paid enough attention to the details.  I didn't
realize they would close the eligible projects like that.  I figured
they would be accepting any valid-sounding proposals regardless of their
origin.

-Rasmus

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## #16371 — Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg — 2005-06-03T21:16:17+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/16366#16371 · In reply to: #16370

> We were never contacted.  I did know about it through other channels,
> but I really hadn't paid enough attention to the details.  I didn't
> realize they would close the eligible projects like that.  I figured
> they would be accepting any valid-sounding proposals regardless of their
> origin.

When I first went to the page, I saw a short list of selected
groups, but I totally missed that they were opening it up to other
organizations to apply.

By the time I returned and realized, they had closed the window. (One
day seems short. I bet they were flooded with requests.)

You think they could extend the window for applications installed on >
20,00,000 domains or something similar. If they're hardline, I wonder
if we could sneak in using our "sister" affiliation with the ASF, or
is that something I don't want to go near with a 10' pole? :)

-adam

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adam@trachtenberg.com | http://www.trachtenberg.com
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## #16372 — Andi Gutmans — 2005-06-03T21:53:06+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/16366#16372 · In reply to: #16366

Adam,

We contacted the project manager of Summer of Code to understand why PHP 
wasn't in the list (nor contacted). We got a pretty lame answer saying that 
it's too late now and we should wait for next year.
Go figure...

Andi

At 04:39 PM 6/3/2005 -0400, Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg wrote:
>How did PHP end up getting shut out of the Google Summer of Code
>project?
>
>http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html
>
>They've got Perl and Python, and even some PHP projects, such as
>Gallery, Horde, and Mambo.
>
>Did they e-mail the PHP Group? Did we not jump on this quick enough?
>Or was there some reason why we chose to stay out?
>
>-adam
>
>--
>adam@trachtenberg.com | http://www.trachtenberg.com
>author of o'reilly's "upgrading to php 5" and "php cookbook"
>avoid the holiday rush, buy your copies today!

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## #16787 — Ron Korving — 2005-06-18T07:56:27+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/16366#16787 · In reply to: #16366

Quote from http://code.google.com
We're Expanding the Summer of Code... - 17/Jun/2005

After spot reviewing the applications we've received for the Summer of Code,
we were struck with their high quality. As a result, we were able to
increase the funds available to support 400 students, double our original
number of 200. While this doesn't allow us to take all applicants, we
thought that this would be a terrific thing to do for the mentoring
organizations, the students, open source software and computer science.

Who knows, maybe they'll take on new mentoring organizations.

Ron


"Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg" <adam@trachtenberg.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0506031636280.28217@miranda.org...
> How did PHP end up getting shut out of the Google Summer of Code
> project?
>
> http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html
>
> They've got Perl and Python, and even some PHP projects, such as
> Gallery, Horde, and Mambo.
>
> Did they e-mail the PHP Group? Did we not jump on this quick enough?
> Or was there some reason why we chose to stay out?
>
> -adam
>
> -- 
> adam@trachtenberg.com | http://www.trachtenberg.com
> author of o'reilly's "upgrading to php 5" and "php cookbook"
> avoid the holiday rush, buy your copies today!

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## #16791 — Andi Gutmans — 2005-06-18T16:47:22+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/16366#16791 · In reply to: #16366

They aren't planning on adding new mentoring organizations. I already 
checked with them...

Andi

At 09:56 AM 6/18/2005 +0200, Ron Korving wrote:
>Quote from http://code.google.com
>We're Expanding the Summer of Code... - 17/Jun/2005
>
>After spot reviewing the applications we've received for the Summer of Code,
>we were struck with their high quality. As a result, we were able to
>increase the funds available to support 400 students, double our original
>number of 200. While this doesn't allow us to take all applicants, we
>thought that this would be a terrific thing to do for the mentoring
>organizations, the students, open source software and computer science.
>
>Who knows, maybe they'll take on new mentoring organizations.
>
>Ron
>
>
>"Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg" <adam@trachtenberg.com> wrote in message
>news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0506031636280.28217@miranda.org...
> > […]
