# Should I report this bug/exploit?

- Thread: https://externals.io/message/15778
- Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/15778
- Started by Mark Krenz on 2005-04-04T04:32:33+00:00
- Messages: 6
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## #15778 — Mark Krenz — 2005-04-04T04:32:33+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/15778#15778

Hi,  I've been using PHP for a long time and have recently found a
couple of major bugs that would allow pretty much any user on a shared
web hosting server to read other user's files.  The conditions for this
exploit are quite common.   Also, from what I can tell, this exploit
would not be very easy to fix and in fact may not be fixable until a
peruser MPM for Apache is completely ready (Like perchild or Metux).
It could be that you already know about this problem but have also not
reported it.  I couldn't find any other information about it from doing
some searches.

  This leads me to wonder, is it a good idea to make this vulnerability
known?  On the one hand, releasing the information would allow admins
and developers to try to fix it, but on the other hand, if its not
immediately fixable it would allow for a large window of opportunity for
attacks.  Thus, I came to this list for some advice on what I should do.
Maybe I could at least email one of your privately so that you can see
what it is.

Thanks,

Mark

-- 
Mark S. Krenz
IT Director
Suso Technology Services, Inc.
http://suso.org/

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## #15781 — Rasmus Lerdorf — 2005-04-04T04:35:59+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/15778#15781 · In reply to: #15778

Such issues should be directed to security@php.net

Mark Krenz wrote:
>   Hi,  I've been using PHP for a long time and have recently found a
> couple of major bugs that would allow pretty much any user on a shared
> web hosting server to read other user's files.  The conditions for this
> exploit are quite common.   Also, from what I can tell, this exploit
> would not be very easy to fix and in fact may not be fixable until a
> peruser MPM for Apache is completely ready (Like perchild or Metux).
> It could be that you already know about this problem but have also not
> reported it.  I couldn't find any other information about it from doing
> some searches.
> 
>   This leads me to wonder, is it a good idea to make this vulnerability
> known?  On the one hand, releasing the information would allow admins
> and developers to try to fix it, but on the other hand, if its not
> immediately fixable it would allow for a large window of opportunity for
> attacks.  Thus, I came to this list for some advice on what I should do.
> Maybe I could at least email one of your privately so that you can see
> what it is.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark

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## #15780 — Wez Furlong — 2005-04-04T04:50:47+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/15778#15780 · In reply to: #15778

Please send details to security@php.net for further analysis.

--Wez.


> 
>   Hi,  I've been using PHP for a long time and have recently found a
> couple of major bugs that would allow pretty much any user on a shared
> web hosting server to read other user's files.  The conditions for this
> exploit are quite common.   Also, from what I can tell, this exploit
> would not be very easy to fix and in fact may not be fixable until a
> peruser MPM for Apache is completely ready (Like perchild or Metux).
> It could be that you already know about this problem but have also not
> reported it.  I couldn't find any other information about it from doing
> some searches.
> 
>   This leads me to wonder, is it a good idea to make this vulnerability
> known?  On the one hand, releasing the information would allow admins
> and developers to try to fix it, but on the other hand, if its not
> immediately fixable it would allow for a large window of opportunity for
> attacks.  Thus, I came to this list for some advice on what I should do.
> Maybe I could at least email one of your privately so that you can see
> what it is.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> --
> Mark S. Krenz
> IT Director
> Suso Technology Services, Inc.
> http://suso.org/

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## #15779 — Mark Krenz — 2005-04-04T04:50:58+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/15778#15779 · In reply to: #15781

Is that a publically accessable mailing list or does it just go to a
few people?

On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:35:59AM GMT, Rasmus Lerdorf [rasmus@lerdorf.com] said the following:
> Such issues should be directed to security@php.net
> 
> Mark Krenz wrote:
> > […]
> 


-- 
Mark S. Krenz
IT Director
Suso Technology Services, Inc.
http://suso.org/

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## #15785 — Derick Rethans — 2005-04-04T07:13:04+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/15778#15785 · In reply to: #15779

> 
>   Is that a publically accessable mailing list or does it just go to a
> few people?

Only a few people.

Derick

-- 
Derick Rethans
http://derickrethans.nl | http://ez.no | http://xdebug.org

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## #15803 — Peter Brodersen — 2005-04-05T01:28:00+00:00

URL: https://externals.io/message/15778#15803 · In reply to: #15785

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:13:04 +0200 (CEST), in php.internals
derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) wrote:

> > […]
>
>Only a few people.

.. but don't expect any kind of feedback :-)

(yeah, I know - I'm still yackin' about the
print_r(glob("{/home/currentuser/,/etc/}*",GLOB_BRACE)) issue combined
with the glob file name disclosure issue)

-- 
- Peter Brodersen
