# [Voting] Add locale for case insensitive grapheme functions - Thread: https://externals.io/message/127791 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/127791 - Started by youkidearitai on 2025-06-30T07:11:16+00:00 - Messages: 6 - RFC: Add locale for case insensitive grapheme functions (Implemented (PHP 8.5)) — https://externals.io/rfc/grapheme_add_locale_for_case_insensitive.md - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · RFCs at https://externals.io/rfc.md · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #127791 — youkidearitai — 2025-06-30T07:11:16+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/127791#127791 Hi, Internals I have just started add locale for grapheme_* functions. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/grapheme_add_locale_for_case_insensitive Voting end is 2025-07-15 00:00:00 GMT. Regards Yuya -- --------------------------- Yuya Hamada (tekimen) - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info - https://github.com/youkidearitai --- ## #127796 — Derick Rethans — 2025-06-30T09:49:02+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/127791#127796 · In reply to: #127791 > Hi, Internals > > I have just started add locale for grapheme_* functions. > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/grapheme_add_locale_for_case_insensitive > > Voting end is 2025-07-15 00:00:00 GMT. Hi, I have voted no for now, as I don't think the RFC explains a various amount of situations: - How are locale string handled that don't exist (exception? silently ignored?) - What range of locales are allowed? Where would this list come from? - How do fallbacks of locales work? - Are locale variants handled? - Is it really wise to use strings for locales? - How are locale strenghts handled, such as the primary/secondary/tertiary modes of ICU — these influence the matchy-ness of characters. For all these situations, there should also be tests, but that's an implementation detail. cheers, Derick -- https://derickrethans.nl | https://xdebug.org | https://dram.io Author of Xdebug. Like it? Consider supporting me: https://xdebug.org/support mastodon: @derickr@phpc.social @xdebug@phpc.social --- ## #127797 — youkidearitai — 2025-06-30T10:02:00+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/127791#127797 · In reply to: #127796 2025年6月30日(月) 18:49 Derick Rethans : > > > > > […] > > Hi, > > I have voted no for now, as I don't think the RFC explains a various > amount of situations: > > - How are locale string handled that don't exist (exception? silently > ignored?) > - What range of locales are allowed? Where would this list come from? > - How do fallbacks of locales work? > - Are locale variants handled? > - Is it really wise to use strings for locales? > - How are locale strenghts handled, such as the > primary/secondary/tertiary modes of ICU — these influence the > matchy-ness of characters. > > For all these situations, there should also be tests, but that's an > implementation detail. > > cheers, > Derick > > -- > https://derickrethans.nl | https://xdebug.org | https://dram.io > > Author of Xdebug. Like it? Consider supporting me: https://xdebug.org/support > > mastodon: @derickr@phpc.social @xdebug@phpc.social Hi, Derick and Internals Thanks for feedback. I got it. However, Why didn't you take part in the under discussion phase? I would like to improve the compatibility of PHP's Unicode. Am I not eligible to participate? I feel giant walls to Internals.from east asia. Regards Yuya -- --------------------------- Yuya Hamada (tekimen) - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info - https://github.com/youkidearitai --- ## #127803 — youkidearitai — 2025-06-30T14:57:20+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/127791#127803 · In reply to: #127797 2025年6月30日(月) 19:02 youkidearitai : > > 2025年6月30日(月) 18:49 Derick Rethans : > > […] > > Hi, Derick and Internals > > Thanks for feedback. > I got it. > > However, Why didn't you take part in the under discussion phase? > I would like to improve the compatibility of PHP's Unicode. > > Am I not eligible to participate? > I feel giant walls to Internals.from east asia. > > Regards > Yuya > > -- > --------------------------- > Yuya Hamada (tekimen) > - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info > - https://github.com/youkidearitai > ----------------------------- Hi, Internals I am wrong signature for the RFC. I want go to stop "Voting" phase and moving back to "Under Discussion". I'll fix this RFC. Please give me a time. Thanks a lot pointing to me. Regards Yuya -- --------------------------- Yuya Hamada (tekimen) - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info - https://github.com/youkidearitai --- ## #127817 — Derick Rethans — 2025-07-01T10:02:16+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/127791#127817 · In reply to: #127797 > 2025年6月30日(月) 18:49 Derick Rethans : > > […] > > Thanks for feedback. > I got it. > > However, Why didn't you take part in the under discussion phase? > I would like to improve the compatibility of PHP's Unicode. I thought I had, but you're right — that was on a different thread about str_icontains. cheers, Derick --- ## #127818 — youkidearitai — 2025-07-01T10:32:35+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/127791#127818 · In reply to: #127817 2025年7月1日(火) 19:02 Derick Rethans : > > > > > […] > > I thought I had, but you're right — that was on a different thread about > str_icontains. > > > cheers, > Derick Hi, Derick Thank you for reply. Indeed, I'm going to discuss thread about str_icontains too. 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