# Allow to easily retrieve non-default INI settings / GH PR 17459 - Thread: https://externals.io/message/126303 - Original archive: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/126303 - Started by tim@bastelstu.be on 2025-02-06T08:55:17+00:00 - Messages: 4 - Reply by email to internals@lists.php.net - More for agents: search with https://externals.io/search.md?q={query} · RFCs at https://externals.io/rfc.md · JSON API at https://externals.io/api · documentation at https://externals.io/llms.txt --- ## #126303 — tim@bastelstu.be — 2025-02-06T08:55:17+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/126303#126303 Hi this email concerns my PR https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/17459, which extended the cli-SAPI’s `--ini` flag to print any INI settings that differ from the built-in default. There was some discussion around which flag to use, which didn't result in particularly strong opinions, with the PR being merged in the current state, given there is plenty of time until feature freeze for follow-ups. After the merge, this came up again and I'm now reaching out to Internals for other folks to weigh in. Those of you who have an opinion about the flag (and possible BC concerns with using the existing `--ini` flag), please comment on the PR (or this ML thread). If necessary I can do a small RFC / straw poll about this, but I hope that the feature is sufficiently simple to not require a formal process :-) Best regards Tim Düsterhus --- ## #126305 — Jakub Zelenka — 2025-02-06T10:33:02+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/126303#126305 · In reply to: #126303 Hi, > Hi > > this email concerns my PR https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/17459, > which extended the cli-SAPI’s `--ini` flag to print any INI settings > that differ from the built-in default. There was some discussion around > which flag to use, which didn't result in particularly strong opinions, > with the PR being merged in the current state, given there is plenty of > time until feature freeze for follow-ups. > > After the merge, this came up again and I'm now reaching out to > Internals for other folks to weigh in. Those of you who have an opinion > about the flag (and possible BC concerns with using the existing `--ini` > flag), please comment on the PR (or this ML thread). If necessary I can > do a small RFC / straw poll about this, but I hope that the feature is > sufficiently simple to not require a formal process :-) > > As I mentioned in the PR I don't see a reason why that option should be extended to also contain diff which will be mostly quite useless if one just want to see the configuration files. I can see why someone would want the diff functionality but it should be probably using a different option or the previously suggested --ini=diff. Personally I don't really mind what it is, just not using the same one. Cheers Jakub --- ## #126322 — Ayesh Karunaratne — 2025-02-07T07:59:58+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/126303#126322 · In reply to: #126303 > this email concerns my PR https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/17459, > which extended the cli-SAPI’s `--ini` flag to print any INI settings > that differ from the built-in default. There was some discussion around > which flag to use, which didn't result in particularly strong opinions, Even before this change, the `php --ini` output was not very "plumbing-friendly", so I don't think there are scripts that parse the `php --ini` output. If we are really looking to change or add a new flag, I think a new `php --ini-list-modified` or `php --ini-show-modified` might be a good fit. `php --help` lists the `--ini` flag as `Show configuration file names`, so with a new flag, we don't change the semantics of the `php --ini` flag. Thank you, Ayesh. --- ## #126426 — tim@bastelstu.be — 2025-02-17T08:36:30+00:00 URL: https://externals.io/message/126303#126426 · In reply to: #126303 Hi Am 2025-02-06 09:55, schrieb Tim Düsterhus: > this email concerns my PR https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/17459, > which extended the cli-SAPI’s `--ini` flag to print any INI settings > that differ from the built-in default. There was some discussion around > which flag to use, which didn't result in particularly strong opinions, > with the PR being merged in the current state, given there is plenty of > time until feature freeze for follow-ups. > > After the merge, this came up again and I'm now reaching out to > Internals for other folks to weigh in. Those of you who have an opinion > about the flag (and possible BC concerns with using the existing > `--ini` flag), please comment on the PR (or this ML thread). If > necessary I can do a small RFC / straw poll about this, but I hope that > the feature is sufficiently simple to not require a formal process :-) For reference, I created a PR to update the flag to `--ini=diff` at: https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/17762 Best regards Tim Düsterhus