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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:21:41 -0400
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php.net website
From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon)

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Andreas Heigl <andreas@heigl.org> wrote:
> I personally strongly disagree with that approach. Most of the pages on
> php.net are static pages. And those few that aren't can be well addressed
> with their own script and within that vanillaPHP-script the task can be
> solved. IMO there is no need for routing or an HTTP-Stack. And it shows t=
hat
> we - even in 2017 still know how to build a basic PHP-site.  The entry
> barrier is absolutely low as no framework/library knowledge is necessary =
and
> the scripts can be easily analysed from start to end. As there are - due =
to
> the mirrored setup - no DB-queries or sessions or any other more complex
> stuff going on we should keep it simple and stupid.
>
> But thats - as I said - just my 0.02=E2=82=AC
>
And for my $0.02, I agree with Andreas.  Caesar's wife must be beyond
reproach, and quite frankly there is plenty that can be done to
beautify/update the web-php codebase that doesn't involve frameworks.
*cough*globals*cough*.

In fact, if you want to start with a more constrained problem space,
web-bugs has fewer variables and build steps and is in greater need of
updates (the main site having been revamped much more recently).

-Sara