Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:99933 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62317 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2017 13:48:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2017 13:48:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kalle.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kalle.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.54 mail-it0-f54.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.54] ([209.85.214.54:36086] helo=mail-it0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 98/C8-02884-7336F695 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 09:48:39 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f54.google.com with SMTP id a62so751636itd.1 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=X2Y96BSIx3E+j1/KItz/LBQ06VI+mlbdIguyZSQWO5U=; b=Ir0FOJfKtNJg2uZcVQStCGBOaSL7bvIRtB7mC2YemFyw+xOuZQlm2rMJRm+8MWg8z/ TiwL5Kln6KPCDNPPwm0D2qsc8zXcvZ+5vjwS3TTznqCsfyPhXLOv80A5hnOWtnex1syV zs9gkMHaVG1QjcRSxIpSZIjK35q+3/SlckFye4LIPCFelfKJXL4ZbS1m4zpq8unZ66Ck DNsHd+vTIoOUlY06LkaDsvQ8lrJNitrW3RZZpIa+9NPmjw7yc49TACkgv8OIvJ7vj2Fc UhizbzUGY4pzVMVcAWqmLeJKLi93oyXESNS640DpRIr0z8Lb6ctnc2vzxdWS+yWAfI5Y If/A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=X2Y96BSIx3E+j1/KItz/LBQ06VI+mlbdIguyZSQWO5U=; b=VmlYPBFKO72fsI0mmaxDKEeUB/jXtuk56g8Z9nhbhKyBppEm+D0R24IYzg/ciEz+rL eOiQQx+k8q7wLYcST3jDx5dtnvQfFY8ljfAkWesTnvdD6vXoMqQTk5+n3Cf8O98/XuFh m/hhNPwB66opnHxsRcOpwsb+PJ7wzhJ/vg5yB40DqWpH7jimV3L9ZFHeRKukXYUXAMx8 4I8uiUiXq3dkznzbWz/hBl+bRc/d5p5gxOQMkVBopyPot4IBeMLhFlLKcmZSn0oEdN8M o5z2okiTHN4LIfWrWkqgr16gKgQfwUSpKdgjNA9o0JSb56DXTrEb+x0L7CZTCpld904r xzPg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw110YbvwIIbxBgBQkap0G6tNlhXaJMtmQxJ1jonLzD/Wx1uXodbSk Kq7VsFh8OJzyFCP5EpkBIKXjqpchfw== X-Received: by 10.36.36.135 with SMTP id f129mr222786ita.60.1500472116788; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 06:48:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.129.42 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 06:48:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 15:48:36 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jHPJsp5oE9G99ndjml5UWStP8Qo Message-ID: To: Sara Golemon Cc: Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] INSTALL and win32/install.txt files From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) Hi Sara 2017-07-19 15:34 GMT+02:00 Sara Golemon : > There's some (admittedly limited) benefit to having such instructions > in tree. Is there any way this can be auto-generated from docbook > sources? We could easily add it to the release process. I think it would be fairly easy, for me personally its been too long since I worked with PhD to make a renderer to generate just that > Though I'm not super-bothered personally if you want to just make it a > link. The idea of installing internet software without an internet > connection is a bit weird. I totally agree, it is a bit weird for those cases without internet access, but I think we can assume that 99.9% of everyone using PHP has access to the internet one way or another. If I remember correctly then back some almost 10 years ago we had a similar talk but it was the same concern that not everyone had internet access and it would generally be a "nice thing" to have, I do agree with the latter of that statement. > That's fixable, though should be addressed on an individual basis. We > have "doc" people who have @php.net accounts and have never pushed a > diff in their lives. I'm sure someone with AVAIL karma can see to > their needs if they request php-src/doc karma. True, but barely anyone cared to do anything about it, and tho I don't think the karma is the problem. The only people that updates them is the ones that grep and find a hit. Having to maintain the same resource in 3 places is odd too, INSTALL, win32/install.txt, phpdoc/en/install/? TL;DR if no one really objects, I will turn these into links over the course of the weekend -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net