Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:99847 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16204 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2017 22:28:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2017 22:28:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nikita.ppv@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.42 mail-it0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.42] ([209.85.214.42:38356] helo=mail-it0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 28/B1-01782-3F055695 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:28:04 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f42.google.com with SMTP id k192so3562693ith.1 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:28:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Y7HYvDEVu5OyrXu0FkXfBkXMXpUC9kI9SBg12Cvj/Tk=; b=RZ8240G2YTHpwcPbWnRpy1xs9yhP1KcnHSCplk82by5u60k1d3zxplLUI1HyPbcLdo v6uO/Qet8DqztrMksAFbDXvAPcXrlWukqWumquU1GNgZA9PmLsBJ8RSsBd8BdXceEtSt 84SoFo0HJMiODAeoxB0jwxSb/GzHhRyd2WxQh399Kg+78oEJ87nQ3xHh+yTVC6gW8n/m 5ztIMcLuqAETbX23eNTL6TZHZmic8QZXWcPaSmDs9Nze5/Ccg5AIu/5kMJjzgmDU377F svJzM+31jjjDhH+eQC/i9DPEZKzJ1mTNCq+rFIVmIl5w06hxAbpL2wd7sfZcYUkRa5i7 zjXQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Y7HYvDEVu5OyrXu0FkXfBkXMXpUC9kI9SBg12Cvj/Tk=; b=lqL/96ZOdfoSP6hZZ0dFdVoq2tEPxGzy/O0PI2To2A9CP09SDxS1ud9vx925KMp1zC Cq19DGv0x9FW3QoWRtq6PNXvciBNfiORGE8ITP01I77CZY/+GR1n/DHEEXqibeCIZ8SE bZ3pBMCFso3KlYYwzb7wUg9FgjionTMeZZdJqWwz0yP4N0Pc6ilPI0d9wUm596fixLB0 LkY0y1KzD4RJb4tiUSYLOOSRp1ip3rxmEa4pfreROtE392bGmLa39hOa2DpN8p/UcwCN fwraOeDcyyo6HNUIXAdIjahXOkVZjp4nFnALZndcA9kbUOnVhFpHRF5hh/qp4Wa95PBP vG5w== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw113sWolFHXLMTH53ieCegCD/82EkW8HpGt5Bxc/wsIBskE/c+HlA IERlOL899Fulz6MMrPC0dSnK2xRXHA== X-Received: by 10.36.227.72 with SMTP id d69mr18740440ith.121.1499812081195; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:28:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.33.4 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:28:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 00:28:00 +0200 Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c111dd054608b055412368a" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Unary null coalescing operator From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --94eb2c111dd054608b055412368a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:53 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi everyone, > > There seems no reason not to put this to a vote, so I have: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/unary_null_coalescing_operator > > Voting starts immediately and ends in 7 days' time, so 2017-07-18. > > Thanks! > Voting no on this one -- I don't see a lot of value proposition here, but introducing this now will negatively interact with some (imho more interesting) future language extensions, such as null-safe object operations. Having both $obj?->foo() and $obj??->foo() with very different semantics seems undesirable to me. Nikita --94eb2c111dd054608b055412368a--