Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:99644 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89140 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2017 12:26:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jun 2017 12:26:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kalle.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kalle.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.223.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.180 mail-io0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.180] ([209.85.223.180:34883] helo=mail-io0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0E/70-12245-B5DF0595 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 08:26:04 -0400 Received: by mail-io0-f180.google.com with SMTP id h134so61581955iof.2 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 05:26:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=WSb5qaOO8omIJYA1+VDPSaqHqlz0dYAYKTCiuwUhouk=; b=dzKVDU4ePbQ2CpjaqQvDIU/pz5af6Fk3hEMJwKF0fP0D27NEbBumS9czle4hThOg8J 82ZqKC0Jfhx6kTaKdOcums3rQxoje13zLoA/foAWdabSADW3hlesK5QkQ8Wj8p2ltkI1 gOiDtJvnhSkMQtMehxnzuANoeVcxpJcOSkAnYogdjM6WGH7TJf1w1RswffH8Z7ytgICA 4A5uMzmUidayfBBZbz1gMW5Bx48C8CUbC7vAljbMd96C/WsiN+zJtOMUr7kjF0ojbDlY qGX74Is71e83Fvyd7MKsi2PVO7g96ONGeA4lEuunbB5WB4vhyF+/UWfBncPH4ERuLBtr yoEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WSb5qaOO8omIJYA1+VDPSaqHqlz0dYAYKTCiuwUhouk=; b=EuS8WGNes2/LiKd2r1cDrVc2SI90si+RdBujQlBq5FcuWeaNAZNARKZHxzXg0C5jbD kpc3GzbApBozmAy9oR8b56z0L0rrRnuUQbHh3o756YHW2l7AYfN26n6SPHxG0wcCQ7Ne kDg+g9TkfHnSfJ/bojdTkuaq0TIrxQCATwFJBbTulQU+D0fdQrmONfXEKZg/zemUJep1 QCW1EwGOLk3HkNiR5Q52rBQHnZa78UPL1u6brGqcNUFesocUthmXblny6rly2vseuiqX x7MvrbbSUb1auppx5f8V6q8sESM/VBDz/xw/PD6YmSGwwg8aN8JQFgH5HiJOc68llZWw rnPg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOxe0lnljBVc91qw/iq4IFhsMx2FL6bcbkExGUTyfqpEdq+mWBqV zIrHg6UeN9BmHHmipZyKdGj8wjP45Q== X-Received: by 10.107.141.214 with SMTP id p205mr6958759iod.43.1498479961309; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 05:26:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.180.3 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 05:26:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <31e715a7-d129-17f0-b870-52bc1ca1715d@fleshgrinder.com> <76397c50-1bb6-a777-2f72-25a7ed9981dc@fleshgrinder.com> <4f803b88-813d-dacb-db05-248b5e372899@fleshgrinder.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 14:26:00 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: iWRfVQX9G7zhK2ov7ggizM63CM0 Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: Anatol Belski , Fleshgrinder , php-internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Vote] Doxygen From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) HI Joe, 2017-06-26 8:43 GMT+02:00 Joe Watkins : > Morning, > > I also voted no for similar reasons to Anatol. > > This is not really a thing that needs a vote, this is a thing that requires > the handful of people who are actually able to document ZE to spend > considerable time doing so. In addition it requires a commitment from the > community of developers to continue to maintain, and introduce inline > documentation with new code. > > Additionally, I'm a little concerned that an RFC that has the potential to > touch every single source file has gone to vote with a simple majority. It > would seem that we are deciding that new code must be documented in this > specific way, to say nothing of the massive task of documenting existing > code. That would seem to be a decision that could effect everybody that > works on PHP in perpetuity and a simple majority is nothing like a strong > enough consensus. I'm in the same boat as you and Anatol here. I think it is important to note that all who actively work on the Core/Engine have no except for Stas, which also should be a good indicator that we should be concerned. -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net