Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:99537 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49457 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2017 08:07:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jun 2017 08:07:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@fleshgrinder.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@fleshgrinder.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain fleshgrinder.com from 77.244.243.86 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@fleshgrinder.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 77.244.243.86 mx105.easyname.com Received: from [77.244.243.86] ([77.244.243.86:36636] helo=mx105.easyname.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 14/22-11535-543E4495 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 04:07:33 -0400 Received: from cable-81-173-132-37.netcologne.de ([81.173.132.37] helo=[192.168.178.20]) by mx.easyname.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dM8lU-0006aI-Sr; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 08:07:30 +0000 References: <990f6d85-e3ed-05a4-42e0-d3a279c0ebe7@fleshgrinder.com> To: php-internals , Nikita Popov Message-ID: <99486270-c505-56fb-5bd2-b90578ade0df@fleshgrinder.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 10:07:24 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <990f6d85-e3ed-05a4-42e0-d3a279c0ebe7@fleshgrinder.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PoofaOLB5cWw8VnKK4xSVoG0X7s5X19Ib" X-DNSBL-PBLSPAMHAUS: YES Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Namespaces in Core From: php@fleshgrinder.com (Fleshgrinder) --PoofaOLB5cWw8VnKK4xSVoG0X7s5X19Ib Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="wmrC7j3D2Mh0xOWVWTqD14O6BrlOxjqn5"; protected-headers="v1" From: Fleshgrinder To: php-internals , Nikita Popov Message-ID: <99486270-c505-56fb-5bd2-b90578ade0df@fleshgrinder.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Namespaces in Core References: <990f6d85-e3ed-05a4-42e0-d3a279c0ebe7@fleshgrinder.com> In-Reply-To: <990f6d85-e3ed-05a4-42e0-d3a279c0ebe7@fleshgrinder.com> --wmrC7j3D2Mh0xOWVWTqD14O6BrlOxjqn5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6/3/2017 6:40 PM, Fleshgrinder wrote: > Next promised RFC (and the last one for this weekend): >=20 > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaces-in-core >=20 > I am unsure about whether we should avoid the usage of abbreviations fo= r > things like language (lang), standard (std), and utility (util). I thin= k > it is not necessary to write them out fully, but, well, ...?!? >=20 Bump! Voting could start tomorrow, but I would like to wait for the outcome of the class naming [1] RFC and update this one before going to vote. I also believe that there is actually still the need for further discussion here. @Nikita you are always quoted in this context. I would love to hear your feedback on the RFC. I still believe that I addressed your concerns, and actually agree with you. I hope that you understand the examples as, well, examples. @All I would still love some feedback on the open issues. I would also be happy if you have ideas how the RFC could be made clearer. I know that many want to see namespaces in core, this is a chance. Otherwise we need to wait at least six months before a new proposal can be voted on (see rule). [1] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/class-naming --=20 Richard "Fleshgrinder" Fussenegger --wmrC7j3D2Mh0xOWVWTqD14O6BrlOxjqn5-- --PoofaOLB5cWw8VnKK4xSVoG0X7s5X19Ib Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJZROM8AAoJEOKkKcqFPVVrtR0P/ibsJ+LclA3rbAbJHoeOfwxE cmUajaFdMSZU+9x2rjG2qMlVFuLPkE05W3nNbgNXAl97dESO0iRvyYoUOpb/JB2F XIdccOLu12SKlvo0r+VvccqDHFJp/Puqw1OnvA17queGr2rIaI/DydDaUDUXgg+b ekRSEd40vtSlCIWgQDog+HT8gG2+ifKg85uk4psdSwznGMTnNgQf+q+Tgj+CDial XDl4te6qYgE0LGh4N1jRddfKp2ayI/5AVpyvQZkSt33fMzlpKaghIuJIRA4F+Emw S3Nqwir8a+7hze7lVIGqJnWDhSEjPg/GmLuIRkANemlWotn+9NIkHfz4JVYaeIfs WUEzywoo1Ryzk04YGtbG7Y14XBhLT6G3+v10OVk80DHa9GdAzpDqsp0Vcm67gHGN ShwWYlgR2JgIC+xMP76C4piHGbEs/2D+rm48eYqwaF+oXbv9+lhZ8Mq2ACUg72jw RTEQ1BvYWqNbJA2PYY6/VlBzZC2gCVLNsM4QiokgX6r1ACA4k40kP7MPOIOB4Nfd Y4qPIMZkOmlVpi7wBl5G9TnRr+mYju0L8qxSxf1aU60GRaXmtYyJf3Td+BrNr/fS TiuUGwRnxbvKt/u6tQ3bLy43Wd3jCeaEqtaDEeUws/GtVme7ugWK+pgTiJJ1iIrc YCNl8vQiZK3Ki0wusCcp =tYia -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PoofaOLB5cWw8VnKK4xSVoG0X7s5X19Ib--