Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:99493 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16170 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2017 15:25:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jun 2017 15:25:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mail@pmmaga.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mail@pmmaga.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain pmmaga.net designates 149.210.149.69 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mail@pmmaga.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 149.210.149.69 outbound0.mail.transip.nl Received: from [149.210.149.69] ([149.210.149.69:41718] helo=outbound0.mail.transip.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6B/4D-01593-CE06D395 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 11:25:33 -0400 Received: from submission5.mail.transip.nl (submission5.mail.transip.nl [149.210.149.125]) by outbound0.mail.transip.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3wm0GK2GhRz10jQ2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 17:25:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-wr0-f174.google.com (mail-wr0-f174.google.com [209.85.128.174]) by submission5.mail.transip.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3wm0GH1TJyz7t9X for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 17:25:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-wr0-f174.google.com with SMTP id q97so73365087wrb.2 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 08:25:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOwe4x2/HhfNhe68zh6Nh3b2Taceh3jsMB8fTV5Kc54pc1lsPS2Y 8CpPRbBc73dBUpSsXReQpMltqpIibA== X-Received: by 10.28.139.18 with SMTP id n18mr5254140wmd.100.1497194726680; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 08:25:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.64.213 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 08:25:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4b3a548c-fd9f-42da-93c7-e8403f065da5@php.net> References: <7028fcfd-d47f-c983-510d-eefe4a36cd4a@tekwire.net> <4b3a548c-fd9f-42da-93c7-e8403f065da5@php.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 17:25:06 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Laupretre?= Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Laupretre?= , "Christoph M. Becker" , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11443d9ad7f6990551b0cf6b" X-Scanned-By: ClueGetter at submission5.mail.transip.nl DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=transip-a; d=pmmaga.net; t=1497194727; h=from:reply-to:subject:to: cc:references:in-reply-to:date:mime-version:content-type; bh=kzDrno39I1aaVHxG01CmhvJfx1MYYLp+JCAe8uL22z4=; b=aIEQfU8CYS2TFzFUzv0V9296pGYVn/JhFPDFn2pE0Aouq0COtZyIP3mvnDMZy0uyFTICGN bxNbiDdYkb7jzPGkJCUzY3yBDsaa4Gal2DJV9kYeWxA+1Tm0fWF7N/HRCCFjnSqwxfN7JD IuN5gulKVOb7lXOksOmTnVxA3uPb2+UVhDh6+Up++2db16ElbCMtAlC7wIxgR9Y/2kJAEt uHPt9zjtOHoCBUHsqVCY6ft5A5A1eNq3+yL9AS8ZQ6KY+hgmx1sMfUUox033I+B+zbThpA 3mxv7TeEwEgo58qj4uins+tDfviipymHVMKHFQFEyVUW4zMvDh+JKOpf8Fo0aw== X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@transip.nl Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [VOTE] Arrays starting with a negative index From: mail@pmmaga.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_Magalh=C3=A3es?=) --001a11443d9ad7f6990551b0cf6b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre = wrote: > > I am sorry you take it this way. Voting today on a feature for 8.0 > wouldn't be ridiculous and it would make me change my vote, as most other= s. > Instead of nonsense, it would be a sign of maturity for the PHP project. = It > would be great, IMO, to open a 'Approved for 8.0' section on the RFC page > now, and your RFC could proudly be the 1st one to enter it. > I agree with your suggestion and general sentiment so I propose to do the following: - The current voting widget refers to introducing the change on 7.2. (Will be mentioned on the RFC page) - Add a new voting widget for introducing the change on 8.0. - Extend the voting period for one more week than originally planned until 27/6/2017 18:00 UTC. Additionally, since some people also mentioned the difficulty in detecting this change, if the vote for 8.0 passes, I suggest to introduce a E_DEPRECATED notice where the implicit keys will change. You can see that implementation here: https://github.com/php/php-src/compare/master...pmmaga:negative-array-depre= cated Would it make sense to include an extra voting widget for the introduction of the notice? Given that we are on the voting phase I would oppose changing anything by principle, but given that most of the discussion on the topic only started when the vote was started and what is dividing the vote is the timing, I think it makes sense to update the RFC in this case. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Pedro --001a11443d9ad7f6990551b0cf6b--