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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Class Naming in Core
From: steven.hilder@sevenpercent.solutions ("Steven Hilder")

Tony,

On 30 May 2017 11:21:38 +0300, Tony Marston <TonyMarston@hotmail.com>  
wrote:
> they should not be forced to change just because some nerd has made a
> unilateral decision which is way above his pay grade

On 30 May 2017 16:18:21 +0300, Tony Marston <TonyMarston@hotmail.com>  
wrote:
> just because someone that there should now be a standard. Who gives this
> "someone" the right to demand a change in the name of consistency

On 31 May 2017 12:19:59 +0300, Tony Marston <TonyMarston@hotmail.com>  
wrote:
> IMHO it is wrong for someone new to the project to demand that there be a
> standard, one of his choosing, and that all existing code be modified to
> conform to that standard.

On 02 Jun 2017 10:56:57 +0300, Tony Marston <TonyMarston@hotmail.com>  
wrote:
> I object to some young nerd arriving on the scene and proclaiming to the  
> world
> that he has decided to change the "standards" and demand that everyone  
> follow.
> Who gave him the right to change the standards?the

On 03 Jun 2017 11:10:39 +0300, Tony Marston <TonyMarston@hotmail.com>  
wrote:
> That strikes me as being dictatorial and authoritarian

You're correct that nothing gives any one person the right to demand a  
change to
naming conventions or any other element of PHP - hence why nobody here is  
making
any such demands or proclamations.

However, what you seem not to recognise is that any person has the right to
suggest or campaign for such a change, regardless of their age, experience
level, pay grade, nerdiness or severity of OCD. To imply otherwise is  
offensive.

The purpose both of debating suggestions on this list and carrying out the  
RFC
process is to determine if the internals community can reach a consensus  
on a
proposal's viability for inclusion in PHP.

Only if and when consensus is achieved will the change be implemented.  
There are
no unilateral decisions. To imply otherwise is to fundamentally  
misunderstand
how open-source collaboration works.

Furthermore, there is absolutely no prerequisite that a standard must have  
been
in place since the project's inception for a proposal to be valid.

None of what I have written above should be news to you, and Rowan has  
already
clarified that you are not being forced or even asked to change any of  
your own
code. So why do you persist?