Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:99146 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 15117 invoked from network); 24 May 2017 15:21:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 May 2017 15:21:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lists@rhsoft.net; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lists@rhsoft.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain rhsoft.net designates 91.118.73.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lists@rhsoft.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.118.73.15 mail.thelounge.net Received: from [91.118.73.15] ([91.118.73.15:20877] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 87/1B-10292-105A5295 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 11:21:37 -0400 Received: from rh.thelounge.net (Authenticated sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net) by mail.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE MTA) with ESMTPSA id 3wXx251pRGzXMk for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 17:21:33 +0200 (CEST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: Message-ID: <72c5e033-9ea4-61f0-c955-09c3df6c4d73@rhsoft.net> Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 17:21:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-CH Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] UUID From: lists@rhsoft.net ("lists@rhsoft.net") Am 24.05.2017 um 17:04 schrieb Larry Garfield: > On 05/24/2017 04:31 AM, lists@rhsoft.net wrote: >> >> Am 24.05.2017 um 11:27 schrieb Dan Ackroyd: >>>> Hey internals! >>>> >>>> I haven't written the RFC yet, >>> >>> Please don't forget to include in the RFC a justification for why this >>> should be part of PHP core, rather than a library >> >> because as developer in reality you can not use and rely on features >> which needs to install some pecl-library when it is supposed to be >> used on typical hosting packages > > It doesn't have to be a PECL library. I agree that a project requiring > a PECL library greatly limits its potential reach, but with Composer > user-space libraries are totally easy to install. There's a nice and > popular UUID implementation already frankly get out of my sight with composer i maintain the whole webstacke for many years at my own (rpm packages) and so the Fedora repos have excluded anything relevant to PHP - trying to build composer by just download the src.rpm ends in a ton of build dependencies, bootsrap stuff because of cyclic dependencies, frameworks nobody needs and wants in environments where 3rd party code is discouraged because it becomes a problem sooner or later in case of upgrades and so composer is just a red flag for me until a PHP build spits out a /usr/bin/composer binary which is self contained